Trump supporters are very loyal; more loyal than any other candidates'. He attracts not only disaffected Dems ( of which there are MANY!), who couldn't vote in many primaries, because of crazy party affiliation rules that vary from state to state and some of which were instituted by NOT made public, lasts summer or fall.
Trump also has many INDY voters' support and people who haven't voted in years, or ever.Many of those people were shut out of the primaries too, but who would crawl through fire, over broken glass and knife blades to vote for Trump in the general.
If Bernie isn't the Dem nominee, a large number of those people will vote for Trump.
None of the people I talked about even sort of "like" Cruz and no, he isn't acceptable to them. The more people learn about Ted, the more they don't like him. I know that you don't want to hear that, nor will you probably accept this fact, but it is what it is and you can't refute any of the statements I have made in this reply!
We don't "hate" you; we know that you have just dug your heels in and are delusional.
Cruz is NOT a conservative and he has spit up on and shredded the Constitution. He is liar, has no accomplishments, a cheat, and unprincipled. I guess, from what you say, the only "values" you have are BAD ones.
From what you and some others posters here post, there is NO WAY AT ALL to dissuade you and frankly, I'm NOT even going to try. Trump can win without your vote.
“Trump supporters are very loyal; more loyal than any other candidates’.”
There is loyalty and then there is slavish devotion.
I am a Trump supporter. I just prefer Cruz more because, contrary to the many ridiculous assertions otherwise, Cruz is the more conservative candidate. Sorry, you don’t get to redefine terms and ideologies just because you are starstruck.
“If Bernie isn’t the Dem nominee, a large number of those people will vote for Trump.”
I think you may be right about this. And that IS a good reason to support Trump.
As I have been saying for a very long while, if Trump and his supporters had stuck to the message of why Trump is a better candidate, instead of name calling and childish attacks on Cruz, he would have already wrapped up the nomination.
Attacks on a KNOWN conservative make a lot of conservatives very leery of a guy with a track record of liberal support. I’m all for people snapping to the reality that liberalism is a failed non-solution. As long as they really do change. Trump has been positive about Pelosi, Reid, and Planned Parenthood. He and his devotees have saved their most vicious attacks against the most conservative candidate in the race. It’s insulting, not just to Cruz, but to his supporters.
“The more people learn about Ted, the more they don’t like him.”
No. The more liberals and socialists, the ones you think will switch to Trump in the general, hear about Cruz, the more they dislike him. The duty of the Republican nominee is to educate the public why conservatism works, not redefine the party platform to be more liberal.
Left-leaning moderates are no longer welcome in the Democratic Socialist party, so they don’t want to start their own party, they want to come over to the Republican party and “fix” it by making it more liberal.
In a sane world, Hillary or Bernie would be the nominee of the Communist party. Trump would the nominee of the Democrat party. And Cruz would be the nominee of the Republican party. In this case, Trump would probably win. He’s neither extremely conservative, nor extremely liberal. Trump is a modern day JFK.
“Cruz is NOT a conservative and he has spit up on and shredded the Constitution.”
Cruz has a track record that has caused him to be rated more conservative than any other candidate running (generally 100% or nearly that) by EVERY conservative organization. Again, you do not get to redefine conservative to fit what you want it to mean.
I understand the sentiment that Cruz is a spoiler, and the base needs to unite. I agree. But Trump must EARN it. He does not just get conservative support handed to him because he is Trump. He needs to commit to conservatism and stick to it. He has been too wobbly lately. I still support him, but I will not pledge my undying loyalty to him or any other candidate.
I have given multiple scenarios in which proof of Trump supporter accusations against Cruz would result in me switching support to Trump. Proof was promised. It never materialized. The nasty things said over and over ad nauseam here and in the media have been said NOT because of Cruz’s lack of conservatism, but because he is the biggest threat to a Trump nomination.
“Trump can win without your vote.”
Neither you nor Trump needs to worry about running without MY vote. I WILL vote for Trump if he is the nominee. Unfortunately, many of the millions of Cruz supporters will not, unless he can convince them to unite. How does he do that?
If you think the Bernie (Socialist) supporters switching toTrump, means Trump does not need conservatives to win, you are completely delusional. There is simply no way possible. Now, maybe conservatives continue to tolerate non-conservative candidates pragmatically like we did with Romney and McCain. Or maybe Trump picks a great VP, like Allen West. But somehow he MUST get conservatives on board. And he has won many.
My defense of Cruz has not been an attack onTrump. I know that the ones who have always hated Cruz are the GOPe and Democrats, and hail-Satan, hard-left, abortion-loving, Planned Parenthood types. Some of them are on this forum to attack Cruz and spread lies. Others are socially-liberal, fiscally-conservative types who don’t like Cruz. And some are naive types who trust CNN over any long-term, conservative organization when it comes to Cruz’s track record.
Trump wins by staying on message. If he and his devotees refuse to heed this advice and keep doing the “lyin’ Ted” schtick, it will continue to weaken Trump. And you can keep whining about how Cruz getting delegates is unfair. Or you can stick to why Trump is the best candidate to win and fix problems. And he just might still pull off a 1237 win and carry some momentum into the general. Otherwise, Trump will be forced to do some hard negotiating to get the nomination. And whether his devotees are smart enough to realize it, he knows he will need to work with Cruz to win the general.
He will have my support regardless.