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To: mkjessup
An important quality of civilized people much less good candidates, as Bill Buckley once observed, is precisely that they know when NOT to speak their minds. This reflects prudence and judgment not PC. It is a matter of self-discipline which is important for anyone including those who would lead us.

Second, if we passed a statute prohibiting the murder of anyone already born, there would still be incidents like the slaying of eight family members including the mother of a four day old infant in Ohio (right next to the infant) yesterday. That is not a reason to repeal the anti-homicide statute. The perfect is the enemy of the good. If, as seems probable, many homicides are deterred by such statutes but some still occur, we take the good of the deterrence of some homicides and punish those that do occur. We live in a fallen world and do what we can.

Isn't it at least as likely that his "pro-choice" expressions emanated instead as the natural fruit of a overly enthusiastic lifestyle as to many women to whom he was not married? Child support in his economic stratosphere would have been a serious thing. That does not mean that many others have not the same failing. Again, we are fallen. Some folks feel a need to be "pro-choice" philosophically because they have been "pro-choice" as regards the killing of their own inconvenient offspring. Then they make the leap that it would be "hypocrisy" for them to resist the same behavior by others. It may well be that more souls are damned by acting on that insight than by abortion itself.

Among the many, many pro-lifers that I represented in abortion mill rescues were more than a few women who had aborted their own child(ren) and more than a few men who had urged and paid for abortions to avoid child support and parenthood. They sinned. They repented. They reformed. No hypocrisy at all. Among the more impressive converts to the pro-life cause was Dr. Bernard Nathanson whose chain of abortion mills in New York City had performed 250,000 abortions. He converted, became first a hristian and then joined the Catholic Church before his death from cancer. He took the abortion money from selling his company and put every nickel into a pro-life foundation. It would have been better if he just closed them but others would have popped up to take his place anyhow.

Among the most dramatic converts were Norma McCorvey (the Roe of Roe vs. Wade) and Sarah Scorvino (the original Doe of Doe vs. Bolton) and their daughters who was born anyway because of the delays in the legal process. All four became active arrestees in Operation Rescue.

If those folks can undergo a sincere conversion on the abortion issue, and, if each one of them (other than Dr. Nathanson) is less articulate and far less educated than Donald Trump and lacking much of a previous track record for self-discipline, and yet can credibly convert, so can Trump. We are, however, for that credibility to emerge.

Free will is not meaningful if one's life is taken in utero by abortion. Free will, at least according to the Catholic Church (and I suspect also according to most of Christianity and Judaism) is a gift from God but carrying potentially dreadful consequences if misused and wonderful consequences if properly used (given that we have been redeemed by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ). To use it at all, one must survive to be born. When the unrepented chips (and souls) fall on this issue, I think we have a very accurate idea of where they will fall.

I do not doubt that Trump of Manhattan has been surrounded by many "pro-choice" women. He has also known many homosexuals without becoming one. If some person came up with a great innovation to make bathrooms much more pleasant and useful in fostering even greater personal hygiene and the satisfaction that results from it, Trump the real estate developer would make sure to become familiar with the innovation to consider including it in his development plans. Should he do less if he has really discovered his inner pro-lifer?

However important it may be to stop the tide of immigration, you may well underestimate the immigrants. Even among the Islamofascists there are few abortion enthusiasts. Try to arrange a legal abortion in Saudi Arabia or Iraq or Iran. These guys are bad but on matters like preventing abortion, they are waaaaaaay ahead of us. You can likely get abortions in Mexico but very few Mexicans are coming north so that daughter Anita can abort their grandchildren or son Pablo can "marry" Larry. Their votes may be for Demonrats now more often than not but not on those issues and not permanently. If we want those Latino votes, we will have to earn them the old-fashioned way but toooooo many Republicans want to live in a dream world of 1950's white sitcom existence that will never happen again. We are Americans. We are ingenious. It is in our DNA. Americans effectively invented automobiles, computers, atomic weapons, television, the internet. I couldm]n't do any of that but selling Latinos on the American Dream (as we understand it)? Piece of cake if only we try.

Shutting down Muslim immigration altogether is well-justified by the chaotic violence perpetrated by their unidentifiable (in advance) nutcases. That is a true matter of national survival. When the Muslim world credibly reforms, we may revisit the issue and not until.

I love Patton but he was an athlete, a bit of a scholar, a general and not an office-seeker. His lapses in self-discipline when he spoke his mind kept him in perpetual hot water with Eisenhower (and even sometimes with Omar Bradley) and cost him numerous opportunities to exercise his battlefield brilliance against the Nazis. We could have won the war quicker and better if only Patton had better controlled his mouth. My factory-working parents brought me up to believe that Patton was assassinated. I believe them. BUT, to emulate Patton's style as an office seeker would be like making Rick Santorum the commanding general in Afghanistan. Rick's a good guy. BUT....Square peg. Round hole.

I want that Establishment destroyed as much as anyone here and I want it destroyed permanently. It is simply a question of which available means to that end should be chosen. I prefer that the means be well-considered and efficient and permanent destruction not short term emotional satisfaction inflicting only inconvenience on the Estblishment. Revenge is still a dish best served cold.

Thanks for your kind words and God bless!

97 posted on 04/23/2016 8:16:04 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

As you always do FRiend, your commentary makes me work all of my brain cells, thanks for that.

I’ll have to digest and formulate a well thought out response to you later on, however for now, when contemplating the question of Trump as the nominee, I tend to think of Donald Rumsfeld’s words about how “you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time” and flaws and all, it appears that Trump will be the standard bearer. We don’t have to love him, don’t even have to like him, as long as he gets the job done, which is to destroy the Democrat ticket in the Fall.

Hope your weekend is off to a good start Sir.

God bless you as well.


98 posted on 04/23/2016 8:30:13 AM PDT by mkjessup
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