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Trump: I would change GOP platform on abortion
CNN ^ | 04/21/16 | David Wright

Posted on 04/21/2016 10:32:44 AM PDT by writer33

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To: fortheDeclaration

Likely two, minimum.

Appointing judges is not “doing nothing,” but rather upholding the duties of the office. It matters a lot, and I don’t trust Hillary, Trump, or Sanders to pick conservatives.


781 posted on 04/22/2016 6:24:40 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: writer33
Of course he is. He's a liberal who is not pro-life and already defended planned butcherhood. Nevertrump!

"But but but he tells it like it is and talks tough"

He's a liberal. He's Rick Snyder pt 2 with a bigger mouth. Good riddance.

782 posted on 04/22/2016 8:37:21 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Cruz in 2016 - #nevertrump #neverplannedparenthood)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I pray by God’s grace we’ll make a meaningful difference in the good fight of faith and freedom.

God bless.


783 posted on 04/22/2016 9:07:48 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: writer33

Will Phyllis Schlafly now change her mind about Trump?


784 posted on 04/22/2016 12:16:06 PM PDT by Theodore R. (I shudder to think what the American people will do on November 8, 2016.)
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To: Rashputin
I suppose reality plays no role in your thinking, then.

"Reality"? You use opinion polls to judge "reality"?

When, exactly, should the behavior of the public at large give us a green light to change morality? At 55% approval? 60%? How high should it be until we say, "Yeah, I guess you're right after all, and I was wrong... abortion IS morally acceptable, I guess! After all... that many people can't be WRONG..."...?

Let me say it again: morality (which is the topic of my comment) does not change with the changing social fads. God's Law (think of the 10 Commandments, if nothing else) isn't negotiable. Just to summarize:

1) Something immoral doesn't become "moral" because Donald Trump condones it.

2) Something immoral doesn't become "moral" because a large number of people don't fight it (or care about it).

3) Something immoral doesn't become "moral" because the fight against it seems politically inopportune, or impractical, or not "expedient".

See how that works? There are moral absolutes in the universe, and they don't change (hence the name). Those who sell their birthright to gain a political mess-o'-pottage will set themselves on the same wretched road that Esau walked.

What's the platform say now?

It says that abortion should never be allowed under any circumstances. You apparently don't think it should say that.

Would the proposed changes make it more or less likely that abortion other than in the cases covered by exemptions would be ended?

It certainly wouldn't make abortions any less likely... and it's a spectacularly STUPID idea which trades something for nothing. Think of football: would you give your opponent 5 free extra yards, on the argument that they're on their own 30-yard line and "unlikely to score anyway", and that the "gesture of good will" might make the other team more inclined to let you score, later? It's insane.

The majority of abortion could be ended with the exceptions in place, IMHo, based on how public opinion has changed. Without that much political cover the cowards that end up being our "representatives" will never even try.

By your own words, you admit that the cowards (not all those in office, but many) in place (and yes, I scorn their actions, as well) have no intention of making any serious effort to end abortion. Why you think that a weakening of our plank will somehow motivate them to do so is beyond me.

Pretend what you like but defeating an enemy in detail isn't evil.

That makes no sense at all. What "defeat" are you talking about? What, do you think we should do away with murder laws, since they're so incapable of stopping tens of thousands of homicides per year? Should we stop teaching the Ten Commandments to God-fearing Christian families, since so few people live up to them? You seem to be wanting to sell out Christianity (and sane morality, in general) in the name of some sort of political expediency... and an "expediency" that won't even WORK!

785 posted on 04/22/2016 12:29:57 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Charlie Browns Gun
Enjoy the moral high ground.

The moral high ground isn't for enjoying. It's for living and defending, and dying to defend... if morality is to mean anything. What, do you think this is a game?

786 posted on 04/22/2016 12:31:57 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan
So, to you, no abortions other than to save the life of the mother after the first trimester is just as bad as the current situation ?

Having sufficient support to outlaw abortion other than in cases listed as exceptions is no better than the current situation?

Play "Holier than Thou" all you like, but half a loaf is better than no loaf at all and if you think a few million abortions a year is better than something that would reduce that by three quarters or more, so be it.

Just don't pretend you're doing anything other than sacrificing children to your personal desire for what you see as the ideal the exact same way abortion advocates are.

787 posted on 04/22/2016 12:38:38 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Dave W
Me, also in Virginia, will vote on Election Day, but my vote will ensure T**** never becomes president.

Is this "T****" business a He Who Must Not Be Named thing?

Or is it like Beetlejuice? Whatever you do, don't say his name three times!

788 posted on 04/22/2016 1:24:03 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: Jedidah
It is not something the President can do directly about abortion.

The Senate is still involved in that selection.

And it might be a Democrat Senate.

So, once again, all of the talk about abortion is not relevant to the office of President, neither Trump nor Cruz can do much about the issue.

789 posted on 04/22/2016 1:29:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: xsmommy
Yes, and I want a President who is going to nominate someone who is a strict Constitutionalist.

And the President has to get his nominee through the Senate as well.

790 posted on 04/22/2016 1:36:53 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: MaxFlint

T**** is a He Who Must Not Be Named. I will never type or spell his name again.


791 posted on 04/22/2016 2:22:44 PM PDT by Dave W
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To: Dave W
T**** is a He Who Must Not Be Named. I will never type or spell his name again.

Yet he lives rent free in your head. Trump! Trump! Trump!

792 posted on 04/22/2016 2:36:34 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: Dave W
When did Trump advocate "a man showing his dick to a little girl in a bathroom"?

Here's a response from another thread on this issue:

Unisex bathrooms are common across Europe. It is not unusual to be doing your business standing up while a couple of girls are powdering themselves behind you. There is no problem here because men are filing in and out alongside women, and no "deviant" has any chance in hell of misbehaving with females, or with males for that matter. This is how it is everywhere, where bathrooms are designated one way or other, or not at all. This is exactly what Trump means when he says "leave them the way they are!". Sadly, few seem to understand it, and old Cruzy is trying to make political capital out of it by insinuating that Trump is saying exactly the opposite.

793 posted on 04/22/2016 8:59:47 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: tioga

We aren’t winning with any of the candidates presently running.


794 posted on 04/26/2016 11:21:09 AM PDT by Charlie Browns Gun
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To: stanne

Republicans have banned partial birth abortion. Many Republican governors have cut off Medicaid funding to planned parenthood.


795 posted on 04/27/2016 9:11:16 PM PDT by tort_feasor (FreeRepublic.com - Tommorrow's News, Today)
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To: tort_feasor

Ok. I’ll repeat, I’m talking about GOPe. National. Not states


796 posted on 04/27/2016 10:14:59 PM PDT by stanne
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To: EternalVigilance; fortheDeclaration
The President can't do anything about abortion

The POTUS can conjure the zeitgeist, appoint judicial demigods, nullify the Constitution, bail the bankrupt, steer the economy and even declare and conduct war but abortion is the sacrosanct LAW O' THE LAND!

797 posted on 05/03/2016 7:08:03 PM PDT by Theophilus (Always vote. Always vote your conscience. God wins every election.)
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