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To: DiogenesLamp

Lincoln’s lawlessness, such as it was, did not long survive him, which is a huge difference. Nor did he advance true Arbitrary government as the progressives most certainly have done. The Republic still operated on the basis of the actual Constitution after Lincoln.

Lincoln’s misdeeds, though sometimes serious, simply do not compare to FDR’s.


52 posted on 04/17/2016 6:52:04 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne
Lincoln’s lawlessness, such as it was, did not long survive him, which is a huge difference.

The consequences of it certainly did. Lincoln redefined the relationships between the states and individuals, and the Central Government. His actions ushered in a series of ideas and legislation from which we are still dealing with the fallout.

The 14th amendment, though well intentioned, has now been used to justify everything from banning prayer in public schools to Abortion and "gay" marriage.

Lincoln laid the groundwork for later day "Progressives" such as Teddy Roosevelt, Wilson, and yes, FDR.

Lincoln’s misdeeds, though sometimes serious, simply do not compare to FDR’s.

Without Lincoln, FDR would never have been able to do such serious things in the first place. Again, FDR built on the legacy of Federal control which was left by Lincoln and others.

111 posted on 04/18/2016 6:11:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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