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Is “The System” Really Rigged?
Townhall.com ^ | April 17, 2016 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 04/17/2016 4:34:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

The fact is, nearly everyone here on FReep has groused over the past 30 years, “How can it be that the lamestream lefties, and the RNC elites, have managed to hand us presidential candidates so bland and devoid of ideological vigor?”
Some of the methods are being exposed this year, and the voteless primaries, etc, are on display for all to see.
The writer has bunched-up panties, calling “whiner!” while whining away at windmills of his mind.


21 posted on 04/17/2016 5:16:08 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

The whole purpose of having a system is to rig it.

Wealth controls power and always will


22 posted on 04/17/2016 5:17:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....)
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To: Kaslin

The Economist recently did a story on the way in which large firms in collusion with politicians has destroyed competition in this country. That there was: too much regulation; a need for patent reform; and that Obamacare as it stands is substantially harming the economy. Which would argue that indeed, the economy is rigged.

We need to restore competition.


23 posted on 04/17/2016 5:17:51 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen... -Emerson)
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To: Kaslin

See a pattern here?

24 posted on 04/17/2016 5:19:26 AM PDT by McGruff (Rush Limbaugh: Jeb Bush could mount a convention comeback)
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To: okie01
Definitely rigged-- in the sense that the Trump campaign doesn't seem to have the foggiest idea how to compete.

Bribes and promises to cronies, who needs voters.

I remember when Oklahoma was a dry state and the local sheriffs made a good living shaking down illegal bars. I also remember when every single County Commissioner in the state was indicted and convicted or pled out to corruption charges save one.(Henry Campbell)

I know that people were smart enough to figure out a Commissioner whose salary was $400.00 a month really could not afford to buy a big farm and fill it with cattle, yet they stayed in office. Maybe they stayed in office because their powerful friends got their roads paved or a bridge built after the election.

The smart ones always kept their bar open and their road maintained. Is that the kind of smart you are so proud of.

Yeah I would say it is rigged.

25 posted on 04/17/2016 5:19:31 AM PDT by itsahoot (Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't finish a sentence, but he will finish a term.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Yes the caucus system is old. Needed in the day when communications and travel were slow and expensive. It's plus is that it does require real investment on the part of the voter.

I can't get over how people are focused on the right to vote and forget the privilege and responsibility pieces. They want voting to be easy, convenient. No registration, no ID, no waiting in line. No thinking.

Our founding fathers had a real fear of mob rule. When a population is under stress, that population often makes seriously damaging decisions. Think Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood and Germany with Hitler. Our founding
Father's searched earnestly for a system that would respect the will of the people and still guard against the dangers of the mob. They worked for a balance that would protect the small states interests as well as those of the larger states.

Before we go throwing a system away, we should spend at least as much thought on those same issues. Read “The Miracle at Philadelphia” to gain an understanding of what went on during the Constitutional Convention. Link to free PDF: http://www.steporebook.com/book/miracle-at-philadelphia-the-story-of-the-constitutional-convention-may-september-1787-24226-pdf.html. Study guides also available online.

26 posted on 04/17/2016 5:24:23 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: kjam22
>>There is a certain amount of irony when it comes to a casino owner running around saying the system is rigged.<<

lol...great post.

27 posted on 04/17/2016 5:25:36 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Kaslin

Not only rigged, but we see the GOPe folks trying to fine tune the rigging to ensure the will of the people is smashed....


28 posted on 04/17/2016 5:26:59 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: kjam22
Excellent point.

The underlying problem is, of course, that it's not "rigged" in his favor.

29 posted on 04/17/2016 5:27:09 AM PDT by okie01 (The of the Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Kaslin

Things haven't changed since then.

30 posted on 04/17/2016 5:29:03 AM PDT by McGruff (Rush Limbaugh: Jeb Bush could mount a convention comeback)
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To: Right-wing Librarian

“…..The only thing more dangerous than facing a corrupt political system with unlimited resources; is the corrupt political system facing an awakened electorate who realize they have nothing to lose….”

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/


31 posted on 04/17/2016 5:33:01 AM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: okie01

Did you support Obama? I think I heard 67% of people opposed Obamacare in 2012 but he still got re- elected. Would you call that rigged?

Whether you support Cruz or not and whether you think Trump does not know what he is doing...the system is rigged.


32 posted on 04/17/2016 5:33:40 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: ClearCase_guy

Why hasnt this scenario played out in other years where the guy winning loses delegates that he deserves ? Its corruption, being pushed by the Gop from on high. They are trying to thwart the will ofthe people. They ve always done that, but this time they know that Trump and his supporters will not play ball. So they must not let him in office. We need a 3rd party that will usher in the minimizing of the Gop. The new party must never let the establishment types in. They must work toward a new role for the media, indeed more controled. Among other things.


33 posted on 04/17/2016 5:39:52 AM PDT by Carry me back (.Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: itsahoot
I remember when Oklahoma was a dry state...

Ah, the good ol' days. Paid my first two years at Okie State by bootlegging.

Then, they voted the state wet. So, I paid for the last two years by running a poker game.

Seems to me that a state party should be free to run their business as they wish. And rom the testimony of all the participants in the Colorado convention system, it sounds like amateurs were frequently elected as delegates and treated fairly.

Indeed, the party regulars were so "in control" that they couldn't get their own nominee for U.S. Senate elected. The insurgent nominee -- Darryl Glenn -- won with 70% of the vote.

Forgive me, but I don't see a problem with the system.

34 posted on 04/17/2016 5:42:19 AM PDT by okie01 (The of the Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: trebb

We need to use the momentum, that is against the establishment, if Trump loses, to start a new party. Trump can lead it and we can disrupt the system for a long time. With this election the US system has been changed forever. The Jeannie cannot be put back into the bottle. Who is the next Trump ? Who will be , more radical ? Because the people will be with that person.


35 posted on 04/17/2016 5:46:04 AM PDT by Carry me back (.Cut the feds by 90%)
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Not only rigged, but we see the GOPe folks trying to fine tune the rigging to ensure the will of the people is smashed....

They're not very good at it, though. Note that the GOPe choice for U.S. Senate in Colorado got waxed by the insurgent candidate -- Darryl Glenn -- by a 70/30 count.

The real problem the Trump campaign has with caucus and convention states is that either they a.) don't know how to compete or b.) choose not to compete and, in any case, c.) prefer to whine about it.

36 posted on 04/17/2016 5:51:37 AM PDT by okie01 (The of the Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Carry me back

In years past, many have tried, via 3rd party....only to have their efforts smeared and obliterated by another “arm of the octopus”, the Elite’s Media. 3rd party hasn’t worked.

Now, when they come after DJT, they are totally frustrated because their here-to-fore successful “destroy” methods are facing real opposition. Will the enact their final solution if all else fails, and JFK him? We pray NOT! but one thing is for certain. They will not willingly give up their power.


37 posted on 04/17/2016 5:54:59 AM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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To: Kaslin

For years, voting has been an absolutely futile process for a libertarian/conservative like me to feel I have a voice. But 2016 is the year I finally understand why. And this may be the first election in my adult life that I simply turn my back on the whole process. The system is rigged to work for those who work for the system, plain and simple. A self-employed, hard-working American believer has absolutely no say at any stage. That’s how the riggers want it.


38 posted on 04/17/2016 5:57:42 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: itsahoot
You have several good points. We keep electing corrupt sheriffs, mayors, senators etc. Over and over again. Think about Harry Reid. Any system is corruptible. Because people are corruptible. The voters job is to hold them accountable and we do not do so. The Presidential election should be less important than the other elections. We need to make small government our main focus. A President can make a difference, but no one person can fix the US alone.
39 posted on 04/17/2016 6:01:29 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: Kaslin

yes


40 posted on 04/17/2016 6:14:06 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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