You are a blooming idiot.
Posted on 04/16/2016 5:51:19 PM PDT by bobsunshine
Donald Trump supporters walked out of a delegate election in Georgia Saturday to protest a vote that robbed Trump of all of his slated delegates from a district that he won in the primary.
A Cruz-Rubio alliance at the district convention in Buford, Georgia helped to knock Trump supporters out of the district’s national delegation altogether. Cruz supporters implied that Trump’s people would “embarrass” the district at the convention in Cleveland. Then things got heated.
“This morning, I attended Georgia 7th Congressional District GOP convention as a delegate and a Donald Trump supporter. We were there to elect the 3 delegates and 3 alternates to the national convention,” Ronnie Kurtz told Breitbart News. “Per the primary results, two slots were for Trump, and one was for Rubio. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97% Cruz finished third in the primary and had no delegates allotted to him…Nonetheless, the hall was stacked with Cruz delegates.”
On the first ballot, the party voted on a delegate slate that would have taken away one of Trump’s delegates but would have, at least, still given him one representative. That bloc would have given Trump supporter Debbie Dooley one of the slots and a Cruz supporter named Carolyn Fisher another slot, with a Rubio slot going to local party convention chairman BJ Van Gundy. But Cruz supporters voted down that slate.
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and WELCOME to Free Republic...
Normally the site is much more friendlier, it is just out of sorts now due to a great Businessman who is known all over the World, and who is kicking butt at the polls..The man wants to return our Nation to Greatness and get us out of debt, that the liberal democrats has put us in these past eight years...
I'm an AMERICAN who loves this NATION, my family all served in the Military, and Hussein Obama has turned our Military into a group that I do not recognize any longer..I feel Trump will restore Pride and Honor to this Country. This will be the last chance to fight the crooks in Washington..
again I say ...welcome...
Carole~Pennsylvania
Haircutter
Or... Trump is dead on accurate about the worm can that is the GOPe and how deeply its contents have crawled towards hell.
Any fool can make a rule and every fool will follow it.
I'll nibble.
I support the most Constitutionally-minded Conservative, as I see it, in a generation. I believe a good chunk of national problems we face today is because of non-adherence to the founding documents. Cruz is the only one currently running who not only mentions it, but it is an undercurrent to much of what he says. I listen to Trump, and do not hear coherency to his plans. Trump is more a fix-it man - I do like some things, and that is why I shall vote for him should he get 1237+ (but with bigger govt). But, I see a Cruz admin as one in which a LOT more can get done, and properly Constitution-wise (smaller govt).
As for ability to win, this is the primaries. Whomever wins the nom, will need to run like hell to win the general. I'm not ready to claim this one or that one can't win... as long as that is the case, I'm going for the biggest buck. After all, Kasich "could win" too... that does not sway me to support him. If winning was the be all and end all, we might as well nominate Hilliary. That way, whether she wins on the 'Rat side or the 'Pub side, we all win... and of course, that nonsense gets us no-wheres.
As if Cruz is going to do away with all the judicial expansionism? How does he do that, sparky?
They have been cramming nominees down our throats for years, and expecting us to sit down, shut up, and vote for them. I no longer think it matters to them if they win or the Democrats win, they are all bedfellows in D.C.
What they did not count on was people beginning to wake up, I am pretty sure they still are not convinced.
At this point I don’t put anything past them.
Cruz set out several years ago to make himself a deep-cover operative of the Bush Crime Family. His “cover” was as a rock-ribbed, unprecedentedly-conservative Constitutional Conservative. People overlooked his Canadian birth AND CITIZENSHIP, despite the fact that DUAL citizenship is ABSOLUTELY incompatible with NBC status. People overlooked his dentists’-drill nasal voice. People overlooked the multiple signs of emotional/mental dysfunction.
The deep cover has crumbled in the last few months, as Cruz started launching lie after lie about Trump. Trump is for single-payer “for every Americans.” Trump is for partial-birth abortion. Trump is to blame for Soros-funded violence.
When Jeb said that, I looked at his smug face and I read his mind: Plane crashes happen to people who cross the Bush Crime Family.
CONSERVATIVE
A word way over used...Ted Cruz states he is Conservative, he needs that word to get elected at a Republican Convention.
He lies and uses that word to fool voters...He is a fake and phony Professional Politician, Lawyer, who talks a smooth talk, that he has practiced for the past 25 years...he has really not accomplished a darn thing..he is in love with POWER he sees what POWER will get him...he wants that POWER...
WELL VOTERS..Donald J. Trump is a success he has accomplished much, he has a fantastic family, he has it all, he does not need POWER, HE HAS HAD THAT ALREADY AND HE STILL HAS THAT...what he wants is to return this Nation to the Greatest Country on Earth and he needs us to help him do that...
HOW MANY POLITICIANS WOULD OPEN THEIR WALLET AND FOOT ALL THE BILLS TO RUN A CAMPAIGN ??? NOT ONE..NOT ONE..BUT TRUMP HAS...
HE HAS BALLS MADE OF STEEL, TO TAKE THE TREATMENT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS DISHED ON HIM...HE IS MORE MAN THAN ANY ONE IN WASHINGTON...SO WE NEED TO SEND HIM THERE TO CLEAN UP...
Yes, I’m a bit pissed off...never in my 73 years as a voting CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN have I seen such dirt coming from this party that uses that word...
CONSERVATIVE...
I’ll take a guy with SCOTUS-level legal experience, who consistently threads much of his interviews with references to the Constitutional roles of the judiciary versus exec/legislative to nominate the next 3-4 justices and hundreds of lower-level ones, over the guy that sees conservatism as “not taking risks” and the main roles of the federal govt center on security (check), health care (huh?) and education (really?).
We won’t beat down judicial expansionism overnight, but I think we beat it down a few notches at least with a Cruz.
All this two faced fancy dancing vs. a Trump who says he wants more Thomases.
Sure.
And an America that is not even there is not going to be done good by any constitution at all.
Related story:
Marco Rubio's delegate strategy aims to topple Donald Trump
A Conservative is one who has gone beyond, WELL beyond, just reading the Constitution, perhaps over a few nights before going to bed.
There is a method to it’s underworkings, like pitting the various functions with powers in opposing parts of the government. Knowing why it is undermining it with A17. Carsen’s recent statements to remove the electoral college also come to mind, and I’d suppose Trump and Trump supporters would feel similarly (disclaimer: I have not canvassed them on this point).
This BS is what a candidate with no path to the nomination engages in. Cruz is going to experience crippling losses in the NE primaries. After they end he is pretty much out of gas and will have hit the mathematical wall. The calls for him to get out will not be long in coming.
Waukesha County, Wisconsin:
2016
Cruz 75123
Trump 27186
Kasich 18521
total: 120830
Sanders 26339
Clinton 24784
total: 51123
2016 total: 171953
2012
Romney 51329
Santorum 23874
other 7489
total: 82692
Obama 9442
total: 9442
2012 total: 92134
2008
McCain 28160
Huckabee 13926
other 1313
total: 43399
Obama 37662
Clinton 34009
total: 71671
2008 total: 115070Fascinating numbers. Note the 20,000 Democrat vote drop from 2008 to 2016 - and BOTH Democrat primaries were HOTLY contested in Wisconsin.
Actually, in the Lefty stronghold of Dane County, the Sanders-Clinton contest attracted 24,000 MORE Democrat votes than in the 2008 contest between Obama and Clinton:
Dane County, Wisconsin:
2016
Sanders 102585
Clinton 61072
total: 163657
2008
Obama 95416
Clinton 44187
total: 139603
Cruz said the same, so did Obama. They did not say “Trump should not be the nominee”, they said “Trump will not be the nominee”.
You are a blooming idiot.
Will the Cruz supporters finally admit that the GOP is rigging the system as much as they possibly can for Cruz, and is just one of them because he’s allowing it to happen at the very least...but in reality is involved in the whole scam and only cares about winning, doesn’t care about the voters or the people one bit.
Delegates are bound on the first ballot. The delegate here could be Ted Cruz himself. But on the first ballot, he must vote for Trump. If Trump does not get a majority on the first ballot, all bets are off.
I don’t agree at all with that comparison.
Parties can select a nominee many different ways.
The problem has been, for many years, most people would rather not bother to participate.
Of course those who do are going to allocate more power for themselves. The way to prevent this is for everyone to EXERCISE his or her hard-won right to vote.
Only a little over half of eligible voters vote at all even in a presidential election. Less than half of those do any kind of research and critical thinking to decide who they will vote for.
I kid you not. The lady who cuts my hair, who now follows elections closely, just voted in her first primary this year. She voted for Trump. She told me when she was younger she picked candidates because they had good speaking voices, were handsome, etc. She did not have a clue. This is how MOST voters in America vote. They go along with whatever the media tells them.
Primaries have even more dismal numbers for participation. They usually have percentages in the teens or twenties. The only exceptions (in the past few decades) are this year and 2008, when Obama first ran. In 2008 Dem participation was about double the usual. This year, Republican participation is about double the usual. In 2008, it was a hair over 30%. This year, still in the twenties, at a hair over 29%.
The truth is, apathy is letting our leaders become tyrants. It is the uniparty.
But on the way delegates are being allocated, and the meme that Cruz is “stealing” is just propaganda. If it is not illegal, it is not stealing. We can debate whether the rules are right, or fair. I don’t think a lot of things that happen are fair to conservatives, Christians, or candidates like Trump or Cruz. I don’t think it is fair or ethical to use mudslinging. But almost every politician does it. And Trump is definitely no exception.
I agree that Trump has been treated unfairly, but so has Cruz.
Cruz has been caller liar”, “nasty”, a snake, and lots of other really offensive things. His wife has been mocked unfairly, just as Trump’s wife was. His children have been targeted. And a lot of people on this forum not only are unwilling to admit this is wrong, they are the ones doing it.
But I am not going to let this election drag me down. If Trump or Cruz win, it will NOT save this nation. This nation is the Titanic. It is going to sink. It is impossible to stop this. If Hillary or Bernie win, it will sink faster with more passenger lives lost.
The lesson here is that democracy does not work. I used to believe it does, just like Bush, who wanted to spread it around the world. Two things proved to me I was wrong about democracy: First, Palestinians voted Hamas into power. Hamas is unquestionably a terrorist group. Second, Americans elected Obama. Obama is the worst president this nation has had by far. It would be hard for Hillary or Bernie to even accomplish as mush destruction to the nation as he did. They will be building on his “achievements” if they get into office.
So, the French saying about democracy, “the voice of the people is the voice of God” has been proven false. Democracy is only a good form of government when the people who can vote are moral people. Our nation is made up mostly of very evil people.
The people of this nation are fine with homosexuals “marrying”. They are fine with these homosexuals adopting children and being foster parents. They do not care that multiple times it has been discovered that such couples, who were thrust into the national limelight as models of virtuous parents, were not merely molesting “their” children, but were torturing them and selling videos of it. The people don’t care. They care about keeping up with the Kartrashians. They care about the Super Bowl and getting drunk.
They don’t care that a woman was thrown in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples. They don’t care that people have lost careers and been fined into poverty. They celebrate perversity.
They do not care that little babies are ripped apart with no anesthesia; a cruel and unusual punishment carried out with no trial of a jury of their peers. They do not care that billions of tax dollars fund this. They do not care that the people getting filthy rich for murdering babies, get even richer by selling the babies’ body parts. They don’t care that the ones who exposed these crimes are being prosecuted by a corrupt government.
The people of this nation are filthy, perverted, criminals, who need to be crushed under the burdens of disease, famine, imprisonment, poverty, and war. There is little left of this once great nation worth saving.
So, whether a corrupt uniparty divvies up delegates in the primaries in a “fair” manner, is of such little consequence in my mind, if you sneeze and fail to say excuse me seems worse.
If Trump can’t beat Cruz in negotiations and deal making, I don’t think he has a chance in the general. But I don’t think that is the real problem. The real problem is that he has been off-message for pretty much his whole campaign. He has been overly focussed on making Cruz look bad. All he needed to do is sit back and let Cruz make mistakes with which the media will gladly embarrass him. Instead, by name calling and other pettiness, Trump made himself look un-presidential. It tarnished his reputation. It worked for attacking the biased, leftwing media. It does not work for a political rival who largely agrees with most of his views.
Regardless, I have tried to persuade more people to see things my way, but to little avail. I will still vote for Trump or Cruz or probably any Republican candidate (depending on if Trump runs third party). But it is not because I think it will save this nation, make it great again, or because I think the people of this nation even deserve being saved. It is purely pragmatic. I would like to minimize the pain and suffering of the minority of people who have been disenfranchised for my entire life and do not deserve what has happened, is happening, or is going to happen to this once great nation.
Sorry if my point of view is depressing. I don’t think I am being pessimistic. I am a realist. Would love to be proved wrong about there being any hope for this nation. It just looks more and more like a typical fascist regime to me.
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