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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Circular argument. Begging the question.

Referring me back to the same posts that I told you to cite your sources for much earlier in this argument is no kind of citation.

And most of the screaming wasn’t even relevant to the fact that the fix was in at the very beginning and they CO GOP actually TOLD us as much both before AND after.

You fail logic forever.

Good day.


199 posted on 04/13/2016 4:41:12 PM PDT by Luircin (Supervillians for Trump: We're sick of being the lesser evil!)
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To: Luircin
Circular argument. Begging the question.

I am sorry that you are so reading-challenged, but there is nothing "circular" here at all.

First off, a majority of what I wrote is regarding my own experiences at the Caucus and State Conventions.

That is what is called a Primary Source, do you understand? *I* was there. Me, myself and I. *I* live in Colorado. *I* was at the Caucus. *I* was at the convention. Therefore it's ludicrous to read of my own personal experiences and come back with "Citation please?" What part of "First Person Experience" do you not understand?

Secondly, I gave you figures and facts from people I know, such as PCP's in the District I'm responsible for, through conversations that night, and from emails exchanged later. Those are Secondary Sources, since I can't attend 5 Precinct Caucuses at once. If you demand proof, I'll forward you their emails, with contact info redacted obviously.

I also provided links (these pesky things that start with "http:") in my posts that show you the Prez Preference vote breakdown for the unsanctioned Straw Poll that my own "rebellious" county conducted, and the list of candidates who won the 2nd CD's three slots to Cleveland and their relative position in the voting and who they were pledged to. Those are what are called Primary Sources. What part of that don't you understand?

And then there's the state senator who provided via an email, aggregate figures for the 4 large "rebel" counties - Larimer, Weld, Adams, Boulder who defied the State GOP and held their own unsanctioned Prez Pref Polls. I can also forward his email to you if you demand. That way, he would be a Primary Source directly to you, rather than a Secondary Source through me.

I also provided links to online articles as well, eg the one that told about various boneheaded errors that Trump's Ground Game in Colo made in the 8 days culminating in the State Convention that explained some things about the Trump Crew's shortcomings I personally witnessed at the Convention that had been a mystery to me until this article. Did you miss seeing that link as well?

Of course, I do have to admit that there *is* one link I didn't give you. Instead, I said this:

All I had to do to find out the above was to read the titles of the videos and watch enough to find out his name (Larry Lindsey) and his county (Douglas County), and google those 4 words together, to find a number of debunking links mixed in with much more numerous screams of righteous outrage against the Colorado GOP.

I.e. I was framing that as an "Exercise Left Up To The Reader" thingie. If you find yourself facing insurmountable problems, either in attempting to google those 4 words, or in weeding through the large number of outraged Trump supporter postings within the google results to find the nuggets of truth, please let me know and I'll help you to find them. Both the ones I found and quoted from were on the first page of results.

fix was in at the very beginning and they CO GOP actually TOLD us as much both before AND after.

Who is "us"? Don't include me, because "they" - if you mean State GOP - didn't tell any of us that.

..... Unless of course you're referring to the utterly discredited Ryan Call, who much-deservedly lost his re-election bid to our current GOP State Chair Steve House a year ago, and is only now slithering out from under his rock in Ignominydom to say, "Oh yeah! The fix was in from the very start! Blame it all on that awful Steve House! The very same guy who, completely coincidentally of course, knocked me off my throne! It's all his fault! Print my words! Wow, I'm relevant again for the first time in a year or more! Look, Ma! I'm on TV again!!"

..... or unless you're referring to the "NeverTrump" tweet that was deleted 3 minutes after posting, and was almost certainly made by someone sitting in the State GOP's temporary Office On Wheels at the C Sprgs arena, who got their jollies by typing in a quick tweet on the laptop of the state communications director or whoever else was responsible for monitoring and posting to Social Media that day.

Wow! Wow! It's a bonafide Conspiracy, folks!!! Some doofus typing on a laptop he had no business being on, or at least if he was *supposed* to have access, then certainly was not authorized to post a tweet from it as if he was an official spokesman for the Colo GOP. But whatever, because we've decided that this is 100% PROOF that "Da Fix Was In," or at least 100% proof for anyone with an ax to grind who is desperate to point fingers at anyone other than the Colorado operatives for Trump, who are the real "November Criminals!" in this sordid story of serial screwups.

FYI, re Ryan Call, rather than repeat what I said about him earlier, you can find those words in the last two multi-line paragraphs here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/3419857/posts?page=94#94

And yes, every single one of the firsthand stories and external links I mention above are within those two links I posted to you, which you are dissing as "circular arguments".

You fail logic forever.

For someone who fails elementary reading comprehension skills, your claim to know what's logical and what's not is eminently laughable.

And if after all this, you still whine, "Waaa! He didn't give me any citations!" then you drop off the list of "Possible Fool" and right into the list of "Proven Congenital Liars".

Good day

Good Grief

200 posted on 04/13/2016 6:18:32 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (REMEMBER THE PATHOLOGIC LIARS LIKE WENDLE!!!!)
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To: Luircin
Forgot to mention that a lot of my stats were gleaned by me from the materials I picked up at the convention on Saturday, such as the various slates for Cruz coming from various sources but all in my possession, or the ballot book with the blue supplement sheet that listed all 691 candidates in various formats, ie ordered by name, #, candidate supported, etc.

If you have some pressing reason to see these, let me know and I can scan some to post here or wherever.

201 posted on 04/13/2016 6:23:35 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (REMEMBER THE PATHOLOGIC LIARS LIKE WENDLE!!!!)
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