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To: BlackElk

It is hardly a defense of “civilized standards.”

Russian and Chinese governments prize conformity and use the organs of the state to enforce it.

I object to the ridiculous notion that homosexual relationships equate to marriage, and appreciate that Russia and China don’t join the madness.

However, these are uncivilized oligarcies, where might makes right, individual liberty is despised, and civilized, representative, constitutional governance is an anathema.


25 posted on 04/13/2016 7:43:11 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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And the point was that EVEN uncivilized oligarchies know what goes where and refuse to countenance perversions posing as "marriage" unlike the SCOTUS barbarians.

In the film Braveheart, there was an accurate portrayal of the notorious policy of Prima Nocte under which, if he chose, the local Brit colonial overlord could take a bride from her husband on the day of her wedding and, ummm, have his way with her. William Wallace loved his bride enough to marry er secretly before his Uncle Argyll, a Catholic priest. No records. No government position slip. Unlike today, no pre-divorce license for government to decide the most intimate details of the lives of husband, wife and children.

The Red Chinese government famously disapproves f the Roman Catholic Church seeking instead to force Catholics into a phony fraud of an institution known as the Chinese "Patriotic" "Catholic" "Church," compliant stooges of the government. Father Argyll: call your office!

It is NOTHING to do with "liberty" to have a gummint seal of approval stamped on Lance's disordered lust for Bruce's anal canal calling it "marriage" nor for taxpayer funded government courts to enter into unseemly questions in the event that Lance is now in his disorder lusting after the anus of someone other than Brucie and wants to move on or in the event that Brucie has found someone more capable of "fulfilling" his disordered desires. After SCOTUS has ruled that Lance and Bruce can inflict themselves on hapless innocent children, those courts would decide alimony, custody, child support and what not as though Lance and Brucie were "married."

No. Better to walk away from government involvement altogether. There are plenty of unmarried couples giving birth to children. Let the government figure out, without records, who married whom in secret without the permission of government. Nothing representative or constitutional about it since those factors are irrelevant. THAT is individual liberty. People seeking such matters would likely be quite careful in discerning the moral qualities of their prospective spouses and those would likely be the very strongest marriages. Lavenders can do this too but they can't rub our noses in it. They will have to exercise their perverted "liberty" without our societal approval which genuinely freedom loving folks of whatever persuasion won't be obsessed with obtaining.

Preventing government from making believe that Lance's genitals' penetration of the anus of Brucie with a government stamp of approval IS the defense of civilized standards even by Chicoms who are otherwise barbarians.

Should Hitler's government have arrested, convicted and punished rapists? Answer #1: Hitler should not have had a government. Answer #2: If Hitler had a government, yes, he should have punished rape. Governments, all of them, have that obligation and we should have arranged Hitler's final departure from this vale of tears at the earliest opportunity whether he did so or not.

Oh, and BTW, whatever their manifest evils, the Russkies under Putin make a show of good relations with the morally conservative Russian Orthodox Church. Whether Putin actually believes or not, he attends Mass and receives the sacraments of that Church. He also POd the entire pseudo-civilized world by enacting very punitive laws against homosexual behavior and especially against proselytizing the young to become perverts and stood strong against all attempts by the LGBTQ propaganda e stooges to intimidate him or his government even during the Winter Olympics in Russia. Not a spineless wimp like Nathan Deal.

Otherwise, the Russian and Chicom leaders are moral monsters but give credit where it is due. Prized conformity??? You betcha!

33 posted on 04/13/2016 3:04:18 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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