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To: D-fendr
If you had immigrants wanting to get in to be producers and support the American system of free enterprise, self-reliance, etc., then they would not be problem.

Asian immigrants are not, for the most part, takers. In fact income statistics show them to be outstanding producers.

Asians vote 55% Democrat. There is something beyond the taxpayer-tax consumer divide at work here. I theorize that American culture is uniquely predisposed to liberty, perhaps due to its unique founding as a colony of nonconformists. Any dilution of the existing population will tend to move the average political orientation towards the global norm of socialist tyranny.

So far no Rovian scheme to convert immigrants into limited government Republicans has succeeded, so I'll stick with ending most immigration.

183 posted on 04/15/2016 9:39:19 AM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint

Two points:

I believe you are not entirely correct about “Any dilution of the existing population.”

I don’t think it is cultural, although all humans are to a degree products of culture.

I believe human beings are “predisposed to liberty” and that America has, in the past, attracted those. Our history is full of their stories. We still attract them, from Mexico and elsewhere.

However, America has changed to attracting too many predisposed to government dependence.

And, as I’ve said several times, even without immigrants we’re going down the same road with non-immigrants. In this regard illegal immigrants are a small fraction of the problem.

The root problem is we have created a government with the size and capability to create dependency.


184 posted on 04/15/2016 10:02:04 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: MaxFlint

I thought of another way to express my point in terms of your post:

>>American culture is uniquely predisposed to liberty

The problem is our culture has changed in this aspect (and others) - and not due to immigrants. Even without immigration our culture remains the same, resulting in the same problem.


185 posted on 04/15/2016 10:15:41 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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