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To: dynoman

>>Don’t move the goal posts. That is a logical fallacy.

You’ve misapplied the term. My goalposts have remained the same, my question the same; your response... still lacking.

>>You think what happened in Colorado is a great ethical, moral, and rational way for a state to select a nominee??

Yep, think it’s much better than open primaries. I like closed primaries. I like the caucus/convention model also, requiring long-term organization and dedication and deep support for the winner. Two things tend to result: a better candidate and one who demonstrates the skills to build for success in the general election.

To require delegates be selected via a hierarchy of gatherings of registered GOP voters is certainly ethical and moral and rational. Be Republican and care enough to show up for your candidate. It’s absurd to characterize that is not ethical, moral or rational.

I dislike shallow support, lack of organization, easy-absentee early voting, motor-voter registration.. everything along the road to internet voting on popular whim of the moment.

The party is over 150 years old, it’s comprised of office holders and workers devoting a great deal of their lives over many decades to their principles and building toward an ideal and a philosophy in political terms.

Anyone vying to be the standard-bearer for them needs to, ethically and morally, win their support.

This time, Trump ignored them, both in terms of effort and his presence; he skipped out. His call, he chose New York. But shouldn’t be any surprise to Trump, when Cruz didn’t and - apparently that mattered as well as the difference between the two candidates in energizing their supporters.

If Trump had more supporters who gave more effort, he would have won instead. It very likely would have helped if he had gone to the state and had built a competent organization there.


119 posted on 04/11/2016 11:24:04 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
The party is over 150 years old, it’s comprised of office holders and workers devoting a great deal of their lives over many decades to their principles and building toward an ideal and a philosophy in political terms.

Alternatively, they're a bunch of greedy hogs feeding at the public trough.

In my few encounters with campaign staff they've barely been able to conceal their contempt for anyone naive enough to support a candidate without being on said candidate's payroll.

125 posted on 04/12/2016 12:30:59 AM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: D-fendr

No you moved the goal posts away from my question; Does anyone know how many people voted for Cruz, Kasich and Trump in Colorado?

That is a stand alone question. It really doesn’t matter anyway, the damage the CO GOP did to their process is irreparable.

I’m more convinced than ever that Trump planned Colorado to happen the way it’s happening. Trump knew all about the CO rules - he said so in this press conference yesterday. He’s said over and over he likes to be unpredictable - and talks about the comment a business associate said - “We couldn’t figure you out”.

Many people in Colorado was very angry at what the GOP did with the rules last year. Here’s what the former CO GOP chair said;

Former CO GOP Chair: Message We’re Sending Is “Your Vote Doesn’t Matter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3419763/posts

And here’s the perception;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=Colorado%20GOP

Colorado GOP has lost the perception battle, big time. That cat will never be put back in the bag.

The worst thing to do in a war is underestimate your enemy - that gives the enemy a HUGE advantage. Trump is perfectly capable of the strategic thinking required to analyze and execute exactly what is happening in the fallout of the CO fiasco. Bet on it. People don’t get here;

http://www.trump.com/real-estate-portfolio/
http://www.trump.com/hotel-collection/
http://www.trump.com/golf/

And signing 22k paychecks on the front with out serious stragetic thinking skills.


133 posted on 04/12/2016 7:59:34 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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