Posted on 04/11/2016 1:03:32 PM PDT by pabianice
Wow. Like many here, I closely followed the rise of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. The people of Venezuela, mostly the poor, held the same view as that cashier. And Chavez promised loads of free stuff from all the people he told them were ripping them off. The people elected Chavez in great numbers. When things started going bad the people people reelected Chavez.
I find it frightening that this same mindset is propelling Comrade Bernie.
College publications these days are laugh-a-minute concentrations of pure stupid. I need to spend more time reading them, just for the laughs. I’ll try to ignore the fact that these losers will be running things 20 years from now.
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Must be location dependent? Around here I see them doing the unskilled labor work, but most tradesmen are white or black.
Whaaaaa?
Is he saying, professors should work for nothing and the grounds should be cared for by gardeners who earn nothing, and textbooks should be donated free from companies, and the heating and Ac should be provide for free, no one getting paid, just slaves working to provide the students with an Ivy covered building as backdrop to bacchanalia?
How can we force university employees to keep working with no pay? Isn’t slavery outlawed?
Exactly. In smaller European countries, by 7th grade children are weeded out of the “college track.” Even if you go into business, it is a work study apprenticeship program. College is only for certain types of students, and there are very few majors. No basket weaving or gender studies. Most people don’t go to university — they go straight to an apprenticeship program in any number of fields. Sales, business, retail, even a lot of medical jobs are in apprenticeship programs. It is a much better system but no leader pretends college is good for every kid in the country. Because it is not, and that is fine. Kids should do what they love and what they are good at.
“There’s too much chest thumping on this thread by old timers who just have not paid attention to the sky rocketing costs of education.”
Understood. The problem is that too many students are in college who have no business being in college. College should be reserved only for those serious students with the mental capacity and discipline to achieve the higher learning. That would eliminate all of the nonsense degrees and the extensive leisure time that the little buttercups have to sit around and think about their victimhood. Also, there are many different careers associated with law and medicine that are not that expensive. Nursing, physical therapy, etc.
Amen, I agree.
mmm... there is still a great amount of training that colleges provide, many degrees. The problem is filtering out all the PC bullhockey that is simply brainwashing diversity and “inclusion” as a real tangible asset. It simply destroys critical thinking.
Not really, in the Great Plains most colleges and universities use the ACT instead of the SAT as the standard. If (for instance) any of the Ivies or the UC system wanted to have their own admissions tests they could and the supposed clout of the College Board wouldn’t do anything to stop them.
I’m sure he’s not thought that deeply, but had heard of countries where a university education is free, and no the faculty and groundskeepers in those countries are paid (sometimes very well). The thing is, wherever that is the case, there are rigorous entrance exams, so few students (by American standards) go to university. The costs are paid by a combination of income from endowments and government subventions — the latter justified by the argument that providing a university education to those bright enough to make the admissions cut is a public good, since it is training the future leaders of society (in the sciences, politics, the arts,...).
How much can be learned online for much cheaper, with less input from professors? We could have the very best teachers doing classes online, with different methods of testing knowledge and skill in various trades or philosophies. There is much less of a need to go into a University to learn, let alone live away from parents so students can “learn” to drink, smoke and have promiscuous sex.
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