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Former Auschwitz guard dies days before trial
Fox ^ | 4/8/2016

Posted on 04/08/2016 9:38:09 AM PDT by Borges

A former Auschwitz guard has died days before his trial in Germany -- dashing the hopes of survivors who wanted to see justice for their dead parents.

Ernst Tremmel, who was 93, was a guard at the notorious Nazi concentration camp during the Second World War.

He was accused of 1,075 counts of accessory to murder, covering the time he worked at the camp from November 1942 to June 1943.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel
KEYWORDS: auschwitz; deathtonazis; ernsttremmel; germany; holocaust; israel; nazi; theholocaust; worldwareleven; ww2
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To: lee martell

The law is the law.


61 posted on 04/08/2016 10:23:23 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: Hot Tabasco

Apparently coercion did not seem to be respected as a factor, and indeed we have the meme now, proffered to that end, that “just following orders is no excuse.”

However, “karma” has a way of filling the vacuum left by abandoning the grace of God. Israel is under severe trials today. No it will never disappear; God will not violate His promise. But it has not obtained a “special pet indulgence” license from heaven either.


62 posted on 04/08/2016 10:23:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Borges; Jim Robinson

Depends on whether or not it is fair to put God to the taste test of a corrupt world.

ZC has engaged in a squealing campaign against me. I fully expect to see more squealing.


63 posted on 04/08/2016 10:24:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: cornelis

And to follow it to ridiculous ends is death.


64 posted on 04/08/2016 10:25:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thats a good articulation of what my gut tells me.


65 posted on 04/08/2016 10:25:34 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Still Thinking
How so? He ain't getting any deader.

The Brits used to dig up the dead-and-buried and then hang and decapitate them just to bring the point of guilt home...

66 posted on 04/08/2016 10:25:53 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: SparkyBass

They had a savage side that knew not God.


67 posted on 04/08/2016 10:28:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Night Hides Not
Dachau is the most sobering place I ever visited. You could feel a sense of dread from the evil that was perpetrated there.

Dachau, if I remember right, was not the biggest concentration camp, just the first. I agree with you, it was sobering to be right there, in front of the ovens.
Do you recall seeing the words written in, I seem to remember, English, French, German and Russian, "Never Again?" Yes, very sobering.

68 posted on 04/08/2016 10:30:06 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“Even as the angry vengeful thoughts boiled through me, I saw the sin of them. Jesus Christ had died for this man; was I going to ask for more? Lord Jesus, I prayed, forgive me and help me to forgive him....Jesus, I cannot forgive him. Give me your forgiveness....And so I discovered that it is not on our forgiveness any more than on our goodness that the world's healing hinges, but on His. When He tells us to love our enemies, He gives along with the command, the love itself.” ― Corrie ten Boom, The Hiding Place
69 posted on 04/08/2016 10:31:01 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Boogieman

Death is nature’s way of making sure none of the bad guys get away.


70 posted on 04/08/2016 10:31:20 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

And of reminding us that we’re all bad guys.


71 posted on 04/08/2016 10:32:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: skeeter

A lot of them were not found out until years later.


72 posted on 04/08/2016 10:35:40 AM PDT by sakic
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To: mountn man

And that is the only way to close the spiritual circuit.

I might get squealed at. But Jesus got howled at, and still came up with the Love that saved all willing generations.

I can understand those who object to hellfire preaching, up to a point. Jesus did not level this kind of rhetoric at everybody. But a point is reached when those who object start to look like those very same Pharisees that the preaching was mainly aimed at. “We’re so wonderful that we could never be in danger of that” is a lie, no matter who is saying it.


73 posted on 04/08/2016 10:36:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Boogieman

You really don’t understand why a tortured survivor would want to see a conviction?


74 posted on 04/08/2016 10:37:42 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic

And it is wisdom to discern what should be addressed in Caesar’s realm and what should be yielded to God’s realm. The fleeing, if truly guilty, cannot flee conscience.

Surely “never again” should apply, not only to the Holocaust, but to the heads that were lost as a result of the Holocaust. It should be a dual lesson.


75 posted on 04/08/2016 10:38:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: sakic

More like identifying this as becoming sin at some point.


76 posted on 04/08/2016 10:38:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mountn man

Was that the story of how she met a former guard at the camp she was in? It must have been a difficult moment for her. The love of Jesus showed through her.


77 posted on 04/08/2016 10:39:48 AM PDT by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: Still Thinking

He is facing the ultimate trial. He would probably rather face the one here.....


78 posted on 04/08/2016 10:40:59 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: cmomm44

“What would some or all of these accusers have done back then-—obey your orders while in the military or be shot or go to a concentration camp?”

‘A’ is NOT the correct answer.


79 posted on 04/08/2016 10:43:24 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Borges
These things are never easy and straightforward. No one was "drafted" into concentration camp duty, that function was filled by the Waffen SS. But not all of those units participated. One such was detailed in Johann Voss's Black Edelweiss, a mountain division that never left Finland until just before the end of the war. The author relates his shock at how they were treated by the Belgians when finally the went to a POW camp and why the inmates made him exchange his tunic for an ordinary Wehrmacht tunic immediately upon arrival. Then he was assigned as a translator to the Nuremberg prosecution committee and he found out from raw evidence he had to process. What it was like for him to learn that after denial made for a very interesting book.

Others were strictly war fighters but could be assigned to the camps at any time. When the U.S. troops liberated the horror show that was Dachau they lined up the SS men they had at hand against a wall and shot the lot of them without a trial, a rather understandable reaction given the boxcars of corpses they had just seen. Unfortunately those men weren't the guards responsible. Those guards had fled the scene a day before leaving the new arrivals there to hold the bag.

The real problem was that relatively few of the ones truly responsible were punished. Certain high-profile culprits such as Rudolf Hoess and Hans Frank were, but Nikolaus Wachsmann estimates that only about 15% of the commandants and guards who actually committed the atrocities were punished.

Through Wachsmann's KL and Arad's Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka I have come to harden my attitude quite a bit. Hound these men into their old age? Yes. Because so many of them earned it.

80 posted on 04/08/2016 10:43:41 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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