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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1; Arthur McGowan
If Bergoglio were a FReeper (which God forbid for the good of the website), he would take the opposite of your screen name and call himself: Dishonor before Death.

Single parents covers a lot of territory. There is nothing morally reprehensible about being widowed, for example, unless the widow(er) has killed his/her spouse. Likewise, an abandoned spouse has not usually so transgressed, simply by being abandoned, as to justify being shunned and excluded from the Eucharist. If otherwise in the state of grace, such a person is welcomed to receive the Eucharist.

"Gay" people (why do we accept THEIR chosen fantasy terminology?) also covers a lot of territory. The intrinsically disordered person may nonetheless live a life of celibacy as a member of the laity just as normal heterosexual people are required to live when not married (in the legitimate sense of that word). The celibate person who is intrinsically disordered is welcome to receive the Eucharist is otherwise also in the state of grace.

Unmarried people living out a sexual relationship while "living together" or otherwise, whether normally heterosexual in their behavior or not are known as fornicators and are therefore not in the state of grace and therefore not eligible to receive the Eucharist unless and until their sins are forgiven after sincere repentance and exhibiting a firm intention not to sin again. This is normally achieved by the means of what used to be called the Sacrament of PENANCE and nowadays is called the sacrament of "reconciliation." Necessarily, the penitent swallows his/her pride, recognizes the priest as acting on behalf of God in granting or (in rare cases) withholding absolution, and leaves the confessional restored after a good confession.

Bergoglio's document will be viewed as a document legitimatizing the wanton indulgence of illicit lusts as somehow not sufficiently sinful to exclude the practitioner from receipt of the Eucharist.

As George Weigel has recently written, the Deposit of the Faith is not open to revision even by a pope. This is true no matter how weaselly the verbiage employed.

Before any more damage is done, it is time Bergoglio retired and that he be replaced by a genuinely Catholic pope. Meanwhile, as Bishop Rene Gracida recently observed, it is time to express the sensum fideli (sense of the Faithful) from the pews and to shout: No! That is wrong!

Arthur McGowan:

If the foregoing is erroneous, I welcome correction from you, whom I trust.

9 posted on 04/08/2016 5:03:30 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

I haven’t seen the text, only four different summaries, and the authors of those seem to disagree about just how bad this new document is.

As Fr. Z has said: Tens of people are going to read it.

Given the source, I don’t see how this document can do anything but damage.

Given that the Catechism of the Catholic Church has a section on Matrimony, the need for the two synods and this document is not obvious.


46 posted on 04/08/2016 7:12:43 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: BlackElk

Hey Frank...bite me!


47 posted on 04/08/2016 7:20:16 AM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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