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To: kingu
Are you saying that every finding by the executive as to mundane matters such as countries which harbor terrorism, drug cartels and extensive tax evasion is subject to judicial review at their whim?

No. Not every finding, though I think your usage of "mundane" is kind of amusing. Barring all monetary transfers to another country is not exactly "mundane".

Or would it just apply to Mexico because a president wants Mexico to build a wall?

Yes. In this context, it reveals the justification to be a sham, and I'll get to that in a bit.

But okay, if you're going for the argument that Trump may have the power to bar all remittances to Mexico under the Patriot Act, then I assume you'd agree that he has to bar them -- he can't just pull an arbitrary, permanent tax number out of the air and confiscate that much, right? Nothing in the Patriot Act authorizes that, and his proposed amendments to $31 CFR 130 don't change that. So since he himself has seemingly abandoned that tax idea now, and is moving to stopping all transfers, let's move on....

The holes in the argument are: Ample evidence exists in thousands (millions?) of court cases of money being transferred from the US to Mexico in support of drug trade. Ample evidence exists in the court records of hundreds if not thousands of cases where funds are being transferred to Mexico to evade US taxes. Ample evidence exists of widespread systematic terrorism in all parts of Mexico.exactly what he said in that memo he released today.

And there's a couple of other problems with that memo. The first is that he claims that the "majority" of the $24B in remittances come from illegals. I'm not aware of the evidence for that at all. I have had some run-ins with migrant workers, and those folks, more so than the ones who are trying to stay here permanently, are the ones most likely to send money home. And a lot of those migrants are here legally, working under the protection of the MSPA and various temporary work visas.

The bigger problem is that he's going with the idea that people have to show lawful residence before money can be transferred to Mexico, and hoping to amend that CFR provision in the process. Apart from the obvious work-around of simply giving the money to someone here lawfully and having them send it (rendering the whole thing a fairly hollow threat), the illegals will just give the same bogus documents to Western Union that they give to employers.

90 posted on 04/05/2016 9:42:20 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Again, you’re talking apples and oranges. The topic of the originating post is using the Patriot Act to cut off ALL transfers to Mexico after a determination by the administration of illegal activity which is consistent with the goals of the Patriot Act. (IE: Money laundering, tax evasion and drug cartel support.)

That turns off everything. No exemptions if you can prove that you live here legally and have a lawful job, etc. It does not involve applying taxes to money transfers, etc. It is a complete shut off of transfers, and exactly one of the defined empowerments in the Patriot Act.

But you’re more than welcome to continue arguing about your oranges which involves a tax system coming from the House that will never happen.


93 posted on 04/05/2016 9:50:17 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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