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To: SJackson

“The only solution would be to bar cash remediations completely, allow only transfers from bank accounts, which have verified ss numbers. Or tax all remediations. Legal too, if people have money the government should get part of it.”

Best idea yet! But I guess really the place to start will be employers. And that would involve the least circuitous process of stopping everything. I don’t know how it is where you live, but here in NorCal, virtually everything is done by Hispanics. tree trimming, roofing, house cleaning, you name it. They are doing all the direct labor jobs around, and they often work for other Hispanics. And as for farm labor, forget it, it’s all Hispanic. I will say though, they are all hard-working folks! Just wonder then, who would do this work if they left? Blacks? No, they’re too busy knocking out illegitimate kids, perpetrating crimes, and doing/selling drugs! white people? Nah, it’s now beneath them to work, especially since there’s all this “free assistance” with no requirement to even look for a job.


112 posted on 04/05/2016 12:41:58 PM PDT by vette6387 (Obama can go to hell!)
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To: vette6387
Best idea yet! But I guess really the place to start will be employers.

You're right, with harsh penalties, including prison for multiple offenders.

I'm skeptical of the "jobs Americans won't do" meme, but it's possible it'll be hard to fill these jobs, but many of the jobs you mention were done by non-illegals 25 years ago. Farm labor too. But it would be a long, difficult transition.

Personally I'd have no problem legalizing any illegal working here with no legal problems, under certain conditions.

Work permits, no path to citizenship. At all, other than under existing policies.

They acknowledge their fealty to a foreign government, and that they will be treated the same as US based employees of a foreign government. No, that doesn't mean diplomatic immunity, yes it does mean no "birthright citizenship"

Employer follows all US labor laws, and is responsible for seeing that the employee has legal housing and food. This already applies for agricultural visas. Six families in a two bedroom house doesn't work.

Liability insurance. No matter who pays, but employer is ultimately responsible. Insurance companies would likely step in and provide employer coverage for employees who don't pay premiums. Like insurance banks carry on their mortgages should homeowners policies lapse.

Health insurance, as above.

No Medicaid, no benefit programs. No social security, though the employer pays in his half. I don't care if the employee pays or not if he's not getting benefits. Unemployment I'm open since he's paying the premiums.

Of course this kills many of the benefits of employing illegals. Employers might have to raise wages, or hire Americans, or both.

Those who don't get work permits are expelled as they're found. Would have to be some provision for the length of the permit and the loss of a job. Allow a reasonable amount of time for reemployment, not forever.

For those on the left who howl about citizenship and the right who howl about cost, the issue can be revisited down the road.

113 posted on 04/05/2016 1:10:48 PM PDT by SJackson (Oh my God, sheÂ’s so beautiful and sheÂ’s so little!, Huma first impression of Hillary)
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To: vette6387

Here’s an idea cut off welfare to able-bodied Americans. Welfare has really distorted the labor market wage mechanicisms. Welfare has made the minimum wage useless. Then it becomes work or starve.


129 posted on 04/06/2016 12:14:50 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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