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To: TheWriterTX

I damn sure do

I owned some Austin chalk production rights back in the 80

15,000 apiece....I got back about half my investment then got a notice from a court I think near Llano that I was sold production from a guy in Amarillo who didn’t have the right to sell them

Tom Jones...like singer

He went to jail for about a 20 million dollar scheme

I was out on the deal by a Shamrock landman whose wife I’d grown up with

He got hosed too

My dad had similar experiences with a geologist in Dallas he’d gone to VMI with

Oil business?

Own the production outright

On leases...buy them from the deeded landowner who has them....yourself

Even pros get screwed

I would assume the modern database stuff online makes fraud harder no?

In the late 70s early 80s I knew folks made a fortune living in courthouses

High hourly wages and all expenses and benefits or paid by the lease or equity share

Folks lived on the road from Montana to Louisiana and even south Alabama and panhandle Florida scouring courthouses and making cold calls to farmers or timber people

On pipelines we farmed out leases....some smart pipeline owners bout leases while buying right aways

Talking about it I miss it a bit but I wouldn’t want to be away from home that much


23 posted on 04/03/2016 12:47:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (is Cruz last name a coincidence or a blessing or is he the anti Christ)
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To: wardaddy
You are right, even the pros get into bad deals. Invest heavy into a well that in the end doesn't produce; miss a small clause in a big contract that ends up costing them a bunch of money.

Most of the big producers honor their deals; it's the landmen who do a lot of damage with false claims. Some are pure pros and are upright and forthcoming; some are just sleazy liars. During the Shale boom, there were too many of the latter and not enough of the former.

24 posted on 04/03/2016 1:19:06 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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