Posted on 03/31/2016 4:00:00 PM PDT by drewh
NBC won primetime in the key news demos last night thanks to Donald Trump, who took over the news cycle (yet again!) when he told Chris Matthews he wanted abortion banned, after which any woman who had the procedure should suffer some form of punishment. Matthews riveting town hall with Trump was part of a full night of town halls and interviews with four of the five remaining presidential candidates from both parties; only Ted Cruz declined.
John Kasich, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders spent a goodish chunk of their on-air time reacting to Trumps headline-making statement. Trump spent a lot of time reacting to it too, first with a clarification and then with a statement in which he made a full 180, saying doctors who performed the procedure should undergo some form of punishment if abortion is outlawed, not women who have the procedure.
NBC clocked 400K viewers in primetime Wednesday night, to Fox News Channels 391K and CNNs 340K. In overall audience, Fox News led the pack with 2.2M viewers, followed by MSNBCs 1.6M and CNNs 1M.
During Trumps 8 PM hour with Matthews, MSNBC logged 1.7M viewers and 428K news demo viewers. FNC bested that in overall audience (2.2M), but trailed in the key demos (400K). CNN clocked 1M viewers and 300K news demo viewers.
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There are plenty of places where abortion is against the law, easily defined, punished. Also in human history of course. I don’t know why so many are aghast at the notion. Of course if you kill an innocent person on purpose you should be punished.
Post-abortive men and women may be reading this. If so please know I don’t hold you in contempt. If you have repented you are forgiven and it is not the unforgiveable sin. We are talking about civil law, here.
You can’t make something illegal and then say there is no punishment. It’s really not illegal in that case.
“Should men just stay out of this debate altogether?”
NO please sir get into it and don’t let any feminist chase you out.
1. almost half the aborted children are male;
2. all the aborted children have a father and in this country he is not allowed to do anything to stop their murder;
3. virtually every woman who I saw at the crisis pregnancy center who had a boyfriend who wanted the baby, carried. virtually every woman who I saw at the crisis pregnancy center who had a boyfriend who didn’t want it, aborted.
4. young men need to be taught to stop fornicating. They are making little abortions all over the place. Many of the women I saw never told their one night stand or minor boyfriend they were even pregnant. They just killed their child.
Absolutely not, StAnt. This issue needs the cooperative voices of both sexes to bring our country back to moral reality.
Otherwise, there Bible is just an old book of no particular modern value, and the 10 Commandments are just the 10 suggestions, relegated to the dustbin of history.
Please speak your mind and conscience.
I agree with you 100%. If either has sinned but received redemption in the past and has since remained faithful I think the American people would tend to forgive. After all, who has not sinned.
I really don’t want to jab this too deep if you are a Trump man, but your man insist that he doesn’t sin and has no need for forgiveness. That would, I imagine, include his bragging in his bio about sleeping with married women.
Anyway, thanks for your message!
Thank you both for your cordial, informative replies. Nice to hear an answer without the judgmental attacks. I have found this debate to be very complex. You can argue it from a moral perspective with a kind of distance. Then you meet up with it face to face in your personal life and have to re-evaluate all your previous perspectives. Finally, you confront an entirely new set of realities such as those from Freakonomics. Then comes the Pope with a seeming moral relativism.
What to make of it all.
From his performance, it looks like Trump should have declined it, too.
Thanks for your message... I don’t believe that Trump believes he has not sinned...
My guess is that we can only deal with issues like these from our own moral perspectives, and recognize that others prefer to see it differently for their own reasons.
We must forgive their trespasses, as we would like to be forgiven our own. But, we are not asked or expected not to notice either theirs or our own.
What to make of it all?
If we accept that there are no absolutes but those that suit our own predelictions, then what do we have? It looks a lot like Sodom and Gomorrah, which is where we are right now.
What to make of it all? We each have to decide, in our hearts, which path we will follow, the easy wide one, or the narrow harder path.
Hard choices, friends.
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