"Currently, delegates are bound to vote on a first ballot according to the results of the contest in their state. But if no nominee is selected, most are free to shift their support on later ballots.
Haugland, however, argues that delegates are elected by fellow Republicans to exercise judgment on the convention floor, and should be free to vote as they please even on the first ballot. He said he intends to persuade the rules committee — as well as the convention delegates writ large — to enact changes that would allow delegates to vote for any candidate who has earned a delegate in the 2016 voting."
The rules committee is very powerful. They can control who gets the nomination.
The Democrats and the GOP do not want the corruption to ever end. Trumps would try to end it.
If Trump wants to run 3rd party, I’m not even going to mind.
I’ll vote for him. I’m not going to put up with this.
Romney wanted the rule.
Now the GOP/RNC can live and NOMINATE TRUMP with it
OR DIE if the 8 STATE WIN RULE IS ABOLISHED!
Their US Rep is in trouble because of business as usual.
They will pay the price sooner or later, sooner I hope. Worthless bastards!
Alice in Wanderland lives and thrives in the kookocracy some call a political party for the people.
What this shows is votes don’t matter. Agendas do.
“Haugland has for years insisted that delegates to the national convention cannot be restricted from voting their conscience.”
I have voted for Congressmen and Senators who when asked about a their position on a specific issue stated they would vote their conscience, many of them don’t have a conscience, that’s just an easy way to put off a constituent, they will lie about how difficult the decision was later.
The GOP doesn’t realize they are dead. If none of the three primary candidates are standing by the pledge to support the party nominee, there is no party loyalty. If the rules are being changed to circumvent the voters as well as the candidates, why have a primary - just go straight to the convention and have a nominating committee. Because of social media, more people than ever are seeing the corruption on display and learning about the tortured, twisted rules of the Republican machine that keeps power away from the voters. All the secrets are coming out.
From a related thread …
Regarding the so-called political party conventions for nominating a president, here is the actual constitutional process for “nominating” and voting for a president.
”Article II, Section 1, Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.…
12th Amendment: The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; ..."
The main problem that patriots seem to be having with the political parties is this. Since patriots today have grown up with political parties, they wrongly think that the parties are in integral part of the constitutional republic.
But not only are political parties not defined by the Constitution, they exist to control 10th Amendment-protected state powers and associated state revenues that the corrupt Washington cartel has been stealing from the states since the end of the Civil War, and arguably since the administration of President George Washington imo.
In fact, note that one of the very few powers that the states have actually delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, to decide domestic policy is to regulate, tax and spend for the US Mail Service (1.8.7).
So the key question concerning the political parties is how many political parties does it take to manage the US Mail Service?
I say none.
Remember in November !
If patriots elect Trump, Cruz, or whatever conservative they elect, they will also need to elect a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to not only support the president, but also surrender back to the states state powers and state revenues that the corrupt feds have been stealing from the states.
In fact, note that such a Congress will also probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.
If Trump ran as a 3rd party, I think he would split more Dem votes than he would Republican votes. But then no one would get the 270 Electoral votes needed to become President. Then what?
And you'll have no one but yourselves to blame.
The GOP Republican elites don’t dress as scurvy as democrats but their hearts are just as dark and venal.
If the GOPe makes any move to cheat at the convention, I pledge not to vote for any GOPe endorsed candidates ever again.
there was a time for any rule changing
earlier, before millions of people voted.... the nomination primaries are well underway
it is NOT a proper time to change the rules in the middle of the game!..
(the above is from a person who is NOT on the Trump bandwagon. its just wrong to change the rules in the middle of the game... rigging the game while its in play is NOT acceptable politics imho)
Just how far off Politico’s reporting is:
Cruz is virtually guaranteed to meet that threshold. No-one besides Trump or Cruz can. So any move to change that threshold will mean that Cruz is no longer the only alternative to Trump. Naturally, the thought that Cruz’s people could want this to happen is ridiculous... which is why it won’t happen.
The rule will be opposed by not only delegates who support Trump, but also delegates who support Cruz.
Who benefits from this nonsense report by Politico?
Trump. A lot of people who might be inclined to choose Cruz over Trump may just vote for Trump over whoever else they fear might end up getting nominated.
Clinton. The more conservatives feel alienated from the Republican Party, the more likely they’ll stay home.
As an ardent anti-Trump/Pro-Cruz guy, this rule MUST stay.
It’s only fair to Lee the rule set which people have been running under since the start.
Sorry Kasich and GOPe, it’s Cruz or Trump... Anyone else, and your talking the collapse of the party.
Anybody see any delegates names on your primary ballot? Lying GOP scumbag. If Trump isn't the nominee I hope he runs 3rd party. I'll be done with the GOP in any case.