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Germany’s Jeopardy
Social Technologies ^ | 01/06/2016 | FRANK SALTER

Posted on 03/24/2016 7:13:05 PM PDT by annalex

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To: annalex

Hospitals treat the wounded soldiers who will return to kill you. Civilians make the weapons the soldiers will use to kill you. You’re a moral idiot.


41 posted on 03/27/2016 7:18:53 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: annalex

The Germans sure lost their thirst for war though didn’t they.

A far cry from the end of WWI when they were convinced they only lost because they were “stabbed in the back.”


42 posted on 03/27/2016 7:21:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: annalex

Warsaw 1945.

So you'll excuse me if I don't shed a tear over Dresden.

43 posted on 03/27/2016 7:23:10 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jmacusa

The Geneva conventions the US signed as soon as they were formulated prohibit targeting both. Besides your earlier argument was that there was no such thing as avoidable casualties. Now your position is that they are avoidable, but we should morally not avoid them? That position is at odds with the treaties we signed. And with any moral theology I am familiar with.


44 posted on 03/27/2016 7:34:37 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, they did. Now they are filling their country with Muslim insurgents because they were so convincingly told that they are guilty for being Germans.

Like the outcome? Playing next in the theater close to you.


45 posted on 03/27/2016 7:37:49 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Not to worry, I’m sure the Poles will let bygones be bygones and allow the Volksdeutsche sanctuary in Poland when the Muslims kick them out of Germany.


46 posted on 03/27/2016 7:40:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I am not asking for shedding tears. I am asking for reason. For the past 50+ years the Western system was busy destroying nationalism in Europe. That was a stupid policy according to reason. The Western Civilization is facing a collapse because of the diverse internationalist presumptions. The presumption of unique German guilt, in no way shared by other nations of the time, is the presumption that allowed the destruction of not only German identity but of any European identity. I am not here to defend Nazism; I am here to point out that with the knee-jerk instincts that are 50 years old, we are not going to find a way out of this mess.


47 posted on 03/27/2016 7:46:07 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: dfwgator

Appreciate the irony. No, the Poles won’t, and they shouldn’t. So what is your advice to the German people?


48 posted on 03/27/2016 7:47:57 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
I never said civilian causalities were avoidable. Quite the opposite. Go back and read my last post. Truth is the first casualty in war. “In war there is no second place prize for the runner up''-- General Omar Bradley. Think about that.
49 posted on 03/28/2016 10:37:06 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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I never said civilian causalities were avoidable. Quite the opposite

No, you didn't. You are wrong quite consistently.

50 posted on 03/28/2016 4:28:13 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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No, the only one wrong here is you consistently and I'm not the only one who has pointed that out to you. There are no ‘’innocents’’ in war. Combatants and civilians get killed in war as a consequence of it. Sometimes by tragic circumstance for civilians and sometimes by design as a matter of strategic design and combatants as a matter of design also. You REEK of self-righteousness and self righteousness is just a phony form of respectability.
51 posted on 03/29/2016 11:05:31 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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So when the Nazis were killing the Jews on the territories they occupied, was that also unavoidable matter of strategic design?

Also, would you calm down a bit? I am doing you and other readers a favor maintaining a respectful tone, — why can’t you do the same?


52 posted on 03/29/2016 5:20:25 PM PDT by annalex (fear them notAlso would you calm down a bit?)
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That is without a doubt the dumbest question I have ever been asked and won’t dignify it with an answer. As I said, you’re a moral idiot. No, let me retract that, you’re too stupid to be an idiot and from here on out stop posting to me and I will do the same. Goodbye.


53 posted on 03/29/2016 6:12:49 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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So, bluster and swear words aside, you have no answer? It is a logical question.


54 posted on 03/29/2016 9:39:34 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

You just don’t get it do you? You ask what has to be the stupidest question that has probably ever been asked of anyone and you want an answer?


55 posted on 03/30/2016 7:00:34 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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Was it you who wrote:
There are no ‘’innocents’’ in war. Combatants and civilians get killed in war as a consequence of it. Sometimes by tragic circumstance for civilians and sometimes by design as a matter of strategic design and combatants as a matter of design also

I am asking you to apply this statement not to German civilians but to Jewish civilians, in the same war.

56 posted on 03/30/2016 6:05:23 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL!


57 posted on 03/30/2016 6:12:34 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: annalex

Civilians I’m not making a distinction between religions or ethnicity. In my post I said civilians are often killed as a matter of design. That would mean the Holocaust, wouldn’t it?


58 posted on 03/30/2016 6:27:09 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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Thank you for admitting that. It is a consistent position, even though I don’t subscribe to it.

So, if I may follow up: Was the Nuremberg process that convicted the top Nazi military commanders a miscarriage of justice?


59 posted on 03/30/2016 6:31:30 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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I’m not ‘’admitting’’ anything you’ve got a problem understanding logic and as I said I’m not the only one here who has pointed that out to you. No, prosecuting any of the Nuremberg criminals was the highest form of justice. More than Nazi Germany gave any of it’s victims. You’re German, aren’t you?


60 posted on 03/30/2016 7:59:12 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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