Posted on 03/24/2016 6:58:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The GOPe is so transparent it’s pathetic. This week’s narrative in promoting an open convention is to publish polls showing only Kasich is electable. Yesterday FOX, today Bloomberg. I’m sure there will be a few other polls out in the coming days with this narrative. Mitt was electable too....
Remember President Dukakis? He was up 55 to 38 over GHWB in July 1988
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/26/us/dukakis-lead-widens-according-to-new-poll.html
Simple. Because people get their news and information from Facebook, Google, Twitter, Instagram, CBSNBCABCCNNNPR, NY/LA Times, FOX etc. ALL controlled and manned by Leftists.
Most people are ruled by fashion, entertainment, and vanity. Madison Avenue / Hollywood consumers.
The most interesting aspect of this poll is the strongest GOP candidate (or at least the current leader) loses big to Hillary, yet the weakest GOP candidate beats Hillary. I think this says a lot about who the Dems would like to face in November. They know Trump is strong. Cruz may or may not do well against Mrs. Clinton. Kasich would get destroyed by her.
Makes no difference until after this damn primary is over. And no, not Kasich.
“Only John Kasich beats Clinton in the hypothetical match-up”
No surprise there. Kasich is basically Hillary without an indictment hanging over his head.
We were given the same lying bs with Reagan versus Carter. The lying mediots told us for months that Carter would defeat Reagan as per the documentation below!
Special Report
How Carter Beat Reagan
Washington Post admits polling was “in-kind contribution”; New York Times agenda polling.
By Jeffrey Lord – 9.25.12
Dick Morris is right.
Here’s something Dick Morris doesn’t mention. And he’s charitable.
Remember when Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980?
That’s right. Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980.
In a series of nine stories in 1980 on “Crucial States” — battleground states as they are known today — the New York Times repeatedly told readers then-President Carter was in a close and decidedly winnable race with the former California governor. And used polling data from the New York Times/CBS polls to back up its stories.
Four years later, it was the Washington Post that played the polling game — and when called out by Reagan campaign manager Ed Rollins a famous Post executive called his paper’s polling an “in-kind contribution to the Mondale campaign.” Mondale, of course, being then-President Reagan’s 1984 opponent and Carter’s vice president.
All of which will doubtless serve as a reminder of just how blatantly polling data is manipulated by liberal media — used essentially as a political weapon to support the liberal of the moment, whether Jimmy Carter in 1980, Walter Mondale in 1984 — or Barack Obama in 2012.
First the Times in 1980 and how it played the polling game.
The states involved, and the datelines for the stories:
· California — October 6, 1980
· Texas — October 8, 1980
· Pennsylvania — October 10, 1980
· Illinois — October 13, 1980
· Ohio — October 15, 1980
· New Jersey — October 16, 1980
· Florida — October 19, 1980
· New York — October 21, 1980
· Michigan — October 23, 1980
Of these nine only one was depicted as “likely” for Reagan: Reagan’s own California. A second — New Jersey — was presented as a state that “appears to support” Reagan.
The Times led their readers to believe that each of the remaining seven states were “close” — or the Times had Carter leading outright.
In every single case the Times was proven grossly wrong on election day. Reagan in fact carried every one of the nine states.
Here is how the Times played the game with the seven of the nine states in question.
• Texas: In a story datelined October 8 from Houston, the Times headlined:
Texas Looming as a Close Battle Between President and Reagan
The Reagan-Carter race in Texas, the paper claimed, had “suddenly tightened and now shapes up as a close, bruising battle to the finish.” The paper said “a New York Times/CBS News Poll, the second of seven in crucial big states, showing the Reagan-Carter race now a virtual dead heat despite a string of earlier polls on both sides that had shown the state leaning toward Mr. Reagan.”
The narrative? It was like the famous scene in the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy and her friends stare in astonishment as dog Toto pulls back the curtain in the wizard’s lair to reveal merely a man bellowing through a microphone. Causing the startled “wizard” caught in the act to frantically start yelling, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”
In the case of the Times in its look at Texas in October of 1980 the paper dismissed “a string of earlier polls on both sides” that repeatedly showed Texas going for Reagan. Instead, the Times presented this data:
A survey of 1,050 registered voters, weighted to form a probable electorate, gave Mr. Carter 40 percent support, Mr. Reagan 39 percent, John. B. Anderson, the independent candidate, 3 percent, and 18 percent were undecided. The survey, conducted by telephone from Oct. 1 to Oct. 6, has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
In other words, the race in Texas is close, assures the Times, with Carter actually in the lead.
What happened? Reagan beat Carter by over 13 points. It wasn’t even close to close.
http://spectator.org/articles/34732/how-carter-beat-reagan
Nate Silver has found a 6% average point discrepancy between polls of “likely” vs. “registered” voters—with registered voters underrepresenting actual GOP results. This wasn’t even the common poll of registered voters done at this point in the season (for maximal swaying of voters to Democrat favor)—this was of “adults”—so with approximately 1 in 10 not even legal residents of the US, let alone citizens or registered or likely voters.
Take it with a 50 lb bag of salt.
But yeah, I’ve no doubt that the shameful GOPe effort to paint him as utterly unacceptable is impacting such ratings at this point.
Keep Dreaming!
I remember in 1980 I was driving home listening to the election results and the commentator was going on about how close the election was going to be. When I got home I turned on the TV and there was Carter conceding the election....the pols had not closed in the western states.
Point is that pre-election polling is somewhat of a crap-shoot. For this particular poll of 1000 adults, the fact that Kasich beats Hillary tells you either that: 1. The ‘Republican’ part of the polling sample is not representative of Republicans in general (as Kasich is not doing well in the Republican primaries), or that 2. A significant number of Democrat voters want someone other than Hillary, and so would vote for the most moderate (left leaning) Republican candidate over her.
At any rate, it is early, and if polling were straightforward and sufficiently predictive, then all of the polling companies would be about the same and would all be fairly accurate. Obviously, neither is true.
First it was Jeb, then Carly, then Marco, now Kasich, and backup Cruz to take down The Donald.
Willard & Ryan in the wings waiting to be called onstage....
As that’s not working lets rig the polling to convince people that they are voting for the wrong person, and if he goes to the convention minus the required delegates we should select # 2 or # 3.
MSM, including Fox complicit in this scam......
One democrat beating another. No surprise there.
Bloomberg’s specialty is financial news. For the last eight years every article in that specialty has prominently featured the word ‘unexpected’. Their ability to see the future is demonstrably nil.
pols=polls
If accurate, tells me the majority of people have no allegiance to freedom, care nothing for the health of America.
Sad sad sad state.
These guys need to give it a rest.
Kasich is a big ZERO.
Good. Bring on the destruction of the United States. Maybe people will fight back against the Clintonistas.
I now have a hole in my floor from the ton of salt I had to take this poll with. LOL
Thanks. I need something to cling to because these polls are darn scary.
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