Posted on 03/21/2016 4:40:21 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
RIVERSIDE, Calif. — The Justice Department moved to cancel a Tuesday hearing over whether Apple should be forced to help investigators break into an iPhone used by a gunman in last year’s San Bernardino, Calif., mass shooting, saying it might no longer need Apple’s assistance to extract data from the device.
In a new court filing on Monday, Justice Department lawyers wrote that as of Sunday, an outside party had demonstrated a way for the F.B.I. to possibly unlock the phone used by Syed Rizwan Farook, one of the San Bernardino gunmen.
“Testing is required to determine whether it is a viable method that will not compromise data on Farook’s iPhone,” the Justice Department wrote in the filing. “If the method is viable, it should eliminate the need for the assistance from Apple.”
The Justice Department requested that the court cancel Tuesday’s hearing and said it would file a status report by April 5 on its progress on unlocking the iPhone.
The Justice Department’s move may help sidestep a clash that has erupted between the United States government and Apple over the iPhone and how and when authorities should use the troves of digital data collected and stored by tech companies. The two sides have traded barbs over the issue for weeks, ever since Apple received a court order last month requesting that the company comply with an order to weaken the security of the iPhone so law enforcement could gain access to the data in it.
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Break it and then post the code on the internet.
If it was ever (for even three days) then it was botched, and botched badly.
Because as was asserted by Apple and almost every expert out there...the government has the capacity to break the encryption if the need to.
That fact has just been admitted.
What was wanted was some sort of open door that could be used (and abused) any time without effort.
The public and the constitution say no.
Not when you have a search warrant it isn't. Refusing to do so when a search warrant is issued is "against the law and the Constitution!"
The rule of law requires search warrants (or writs) to be obeyed. Nobody is above the law. Not even Apple.
“Having worked at the ‘Puzzle Palace’ in a previous lifetime...”
I loved that book.
I never believed that the G-men ever needed Apples help. This to me is something far larger in the data collection game. Are we to believe that any of the alphabet agencies cannot come up with their own code or way to hack an iPhone?
Reverse etching electronic equipment to access its hardware just requires smart people and money. Everything else are just users. Vos Das Blinkin Lights.
No Matter how you arrange the atoms, you just can’t have nothing ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhtTiOkl8yU&index=8&list=RDuvKrAFShXqI
And if they say they don’t know how? What if it’s not possible? It’s kind of like “forcing” someone to build a fusion reactor.
Not on the national security side it doesn’t. We have always acknowledged the military need to break codes used by an enemy.
methinks Tim played the ace:
Telling the Feds if they don’t back off that every iphone,
ipad, macbook, will be encrypted in every way by default.
Every byte, every packet, every phone, every device, AES256.
write code that doesn’t exist?
= = =
If you put enough monkeys in a room with keyboards, and enough time ...
You get a warrant to search the phone.
They got the phone.
Farook and the chick won’t give up the password.
Now it’s up to SB County, the phone owners. They can’t because they are incompetent.
Apple is not a player in this. Except the fed wants to violate everyone’s privacy. If the feds want in a bank vault, they drill it open.
Waterboard Farook if you want the password.
Apple doesn’t have the phone...
Apple didn’t break the law...
Apple do anything to provide reasonable suspicion.
So on what basis does any search warrant apply to Apple?
Even with a search warrant, it doesn’t apply to anything inside anyone’s mind. People can always refuse to answer... writing code comes from the mind.
The FBI didn’t have a legal case, and they mistakenly thought they had a public uproar case... but didn’t.
No, it's more like forcing a Carpenter to make a dog house. What they have been asked to do appears pretty easy from a software point of view. All they have to do is disable a counter to ten, and remove delays.
Not difficult software modifications at all.
Apple is the owner of the bank. Never before has a bank owner been allowed to tell the Feds that they can't get into a customer's box because they don't know the combination.
The Feds would respond, and rightfully so, "cut the lock off."
Except the fed wants to violate everyone’s privacy
No, that's a lie that Apple inc CEO Tim Cook has deliberately spread. A lot of people have bit on that lie, and now they are hooked believing something which is not true.
How does waterboarding a dead body work? That’s a new one on me.
Refusing to obey a valid court order is breaking the law.
The Feds would respond, and rightfully so, “cut the lock off.”
= = =
OK. So the feds can cut the lock off the phone.
Well, he should not struggle too much.
Even with a search warrant, it doesn’t apply to anything inside anyone’s mind.
= = =
See previous ‘smart remarks’ about waterboarding.
“We know it is in your mind. We got a warrant. ...”
Refusing to obey a valid court order is breaking the law.
Aye, and there is the rub. Exactly why Apple was going to court, to prove the court order on it’s merits. I believe the court order would not stand on it’s merits.
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