Posted on 03/16/2016 9:29:48 AM PDT by rarestia
Sadly, most operating systems are going more towards Internet integration, and that includes telemetry, the notorious “phone home” in Windows 10. It’s sad, really, because while most people who use free services like Facebook are the actual product (”if it’s free, you’re not the customer, you’re the product”), most of us will be paying for Windows 10 at some point in the future. You’re right, we absolutely SHOULD have a say in our system’s communications.
As a Windows engineer with several Microsoft certifications, I will tell you that I don’t use nor do I advocate the use of Windows 10. That doesn’t mean I won’t in the future, but until MS cleans up their act with this open channel to the Internet garbage, I’m going to stick with Windows 8.1 for the foreseeable future.
I use http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm and somewhat “pray and press.” I edit the host file to allow some Google lead ads though.
I'm running various EMC storage arrays that all have the snapshot functionality built in to the operating system. I've got three VNX arrays, two XTremIO flash arrays, and a big Isilon filer.
They all automagically hook into the Windows VSS service on the client side. Just hit 'properties' on a folder, click the 'previous versions' tab, and restore from there.
You can also set up snapshots on a Windows server with local or direct-attached storage. Just enable VSS at the volume level and set up a schedule to create the snaps.
With 10k workstations to support our desktop techs don't even try to fix an O/S that's been hosed. They just re-image the machine and call it good. If the user had data stored locally... too bad for them... they should have been using networked storage.
[[Just hit ‘properties’ on a folder, ]]
Oh ok- i thought you were talking about a full system snapshot such as rollbackrx or the older goback program would do which snapshot everything-
I suspect that MS ‘may be’ goign the way that Adobe photoshop went- to a ‘pay per month’ basis- which is likely why they are tricking people into installing it on so many pc’s- once the ceiling of users is hit, I think you will see them turn to a forced pay per month model- likely through charging fees to use their aps, which i think is why many current programs were not coded to work well with windows 10
Maybe I’m beign too suspicious of them- but I watched this happen with Adobe photoshop- and watched as throngs of people complained, and watched as Adobe covered their ears up and rode out the storm of criticism so that they could have their pay per month model which essentially holds users hostage (once you use the cloud service to work on photos, those photos get locked IF you don’t pay the next month’s fee)
I think MS watched the Adobe deal and thought “Hmmm- they’ve discovered a golden goose- and although people are complaining- many are switching to the cloud service- Time for us to do the same- Ka-ching!”
This is another reason I’ve moved away or at least am preparing to move away from MSW- I’m in the waiting stage right now- waiting to see which road they are going to take- I was very disheartened with the whole spyware/phone home issue with MS- but i think now the reason they are doing it is to track which apps people are using most so that MS can come up with a pricing scheme to charge a per month fee
Microsoft already charges monthly for their Office 365 package.
For me it is a good deal
Microsoft’s plans years ago are not what they’re doing now. There was talk that they’d go to a pay model, but they abandoned that (just look at OneDrive). One very real possibility is that they will push users to go to a DaaS (Desktop as a Service) model where your machine is actually hosted in the Azure cloud, and your home machine just becomes a hardware platform on which the hosted system runs. This is increasingly popular in businesses, and I’d bet that all of their data collection efforts are to help them design a platform that would encompass a majority of the applications that users use, such as Adobe products, install them natively in a DaaS system, and then users only store their personal files or files specific to things like games on their local systems.
A pay-per-month model would be more than just a tough sell, but you could be right. Microsoft owns enough of the market that if they tried something like that, the forced model would ensure >50% acceptance/adoption. The rest of us would go to a Linux or Mac model.
[[Microsoft owns enough of the market that if they tried something like that, the forced model would ensure >50% acceptance/adoption.]]
I think the ‘acceptance’ % for adobe eventually ended up begin higher than 50% simply because most people begrudgingly caved in to it because they need the product
[[One very real possibility is that they will push users to go to a DaaS (Desktop as a Service)]]
That could be, I hadn’t thought of that possibility before- I’m not sure how MS could make it work financially though if they don’t charge for something- even the operating system is free for now- (Not sure if they are going to charge for it once it’s on as many people’s computers as possible?)
[[Microsoft already charges monthly for their Office 365 package.
For me it is a good deal]]
Yep- for some it’s an ok model (although I still think it woudl be muich cheaper to buy it outright than pay over the long term for it- but then it has to be figured in that upgrades eventually begin costing money - the first few are usually free- and whether or not the monthly fee is actually cheaper long term- perhaps it is- I don’t know- as I stopped updating my adobe at CS5 and refused to go to the pay per month model especially considering my photos that i had worked on in PS would be locked if I didn’t continue paying- that didn’t sit well with me at all- However, Had I been working for a company, and this was the only choice, and was critical to the work, then yeah- that would be fine- but for the average home user- many didn’t want to go that route- while some did and didn’t mind the model
IO didn’t realize they were charging for office- I don’t use it so wasn’t aware-
The other issue for me too was having my files floating around in a cloud server somewhere- instead of on my own computer- With so many large companies being hacked into- something like cloud servers just seems like a tempting target for hackers- My info isn’t anything desirable, but I’m sure many have important info on cloud servers-
Meh- I dunno- I’m just not liking the direction of computing these days- But others I’m sure find it a necessity and advantageous to use-
It’ll be service driven, meaning in order for you to continue to access your desktop, you’ll have to pay them. Think of it like an AWS or Oracle Rack where you keep your servers remote, but in this case, there’d be a local thin client.
Yeah, but it’s not simply ads...its computationally intrusive ads that follow you elsewhere that’s the issue.
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