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Donald Trump has pledged to get rid of Islam-financed Common Core. Look who has no opinion about it:
Bare Naked Islam ^ | 3/14/16

Posted on 03/15/2016 8:29:37 AM PDT by Lera

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To: Yaelle

Yaell, love ya, dear, but I’m looking for some tangible proof that islam funded Common Core.

I hate both. But I don’t think that means there is a link. I’d love to tar Common Core with the Islamist brush. But I need to SEE that first. If you can show me a link, I’ll go look, and publish that with regularity.

Shalom, Sister!


41 posted on 03/15/2016 12:13:20 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Cruz or Trump will defeat the uniparty!)
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To: Lera
Mat 21:42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: “’The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? 43 Therefore I tell you, the riegn of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits. 44 And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.” 45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them.

Dan 2:32 The head of this image was of fine gold, its chest and arms of silver, its middle and thighs of bronze, 33 its legs of iron, its feet partly of iron and partly of clay. 34 As you looked, a stone was cut out by no human hand, and it struck the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
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Dan 2:41 And as you saw the feet and toes, partly of potter's clay and partly of iron, it shall be a divided reign, but some of the firmness of iron shall be in it, just as you saw iron mixed with the soft clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were partly iron and partly clay, so the reign shall be partly strong and partly brittle. 43 As you saw the iron mixed with soft clay, so they will mix with one another in marriage, but they will not hold together, just as iron does not mix with clay. 44 And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a reign that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the reign be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these reigns and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever, 45 just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure.”

The leaders of the Pharisees (ruling elite) had made a compact with Herod(Edom/Esau). The Pharisees had no power fo their own, their power was through their influences in the corrupt government of Herod. From the Babylonian captivity forward, not one person from the tribe of Judah ever reigned over the land of Judea. They were governors under the authority of Babylon, Persia, Greece & Rome. That little horn that seemed to be fatally wounded in the Bar Kochba revolt has now been healed and we truly are living in the end of the age of man's rule upon this earth.

42 posted on 03/15/2016 12:32:05 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

I am glad you mentioned Danielle ,now go back and read how when the music played and they all bowed down to the statue.

Oh gee lookie who is bowing down down to the idol in mecca when the minarets sing

Then while you are at it google makkah angel and take a peek at what landed on the kabah

then why don’t you look up how many times God says he hates Esau in the bible


43 posted on 03/15/2016 12:48:21 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Lera
Let's follow the past, because it is written, what was, is what is.

The majority of the tribe of Judah was carried off into Babylon, save a remnant that God left in the land as He promised He would do. (Jeremiah)

When a remnant returned from Babylon & the other places where they had been scattered, the Persian king selected a governor to oversee the people of Judea & the rebuilding of the Temple. (Haggai & Malachi)

During the Maccabean revolt, the Pharisees & governor of Judea under the authority of Greece made a compact with Rome to defeat the Greeks because the Pharisees did not have the military might needed to defeat the Greeks. (1 Maccabees)

Now when the Pharisees tried to overthrow the Romans, they did not have anyone to turn to for military might, therefore, they were defeated and their Temple destroyed and from that time forward, the Pharisees were the outcasts, no nation would align with them, they had proved themselves to be rebels to any authority and were finally removed from the land after the Bar Kochba revolt. Defeated but not deterred, the Pharisees silently worked to rebuild their authority in the lands wherein they were dispersed.

Then comes the 20th century & the future fulfillment of Eze 11 & Psalm 83 via the Balfour Declaration. Toes of iron & clay, The Bible says that iron represents Rome and clay represents those who had turned from God & His Way to serve their own leaders & the laws of those leaders. (John 5:43)

As far as Esau, hate is a strong word. The etymology of the word actually means “loves less”. God loves all His creation. He may not be happy with us all the time, however, that does not mean He does not love us. Psalm 87 says that there are those of all nations who enter the reign of Christ, therefore, God does not all together reject Edom or any nation's people as a whole. And if that was to be the case, that Edom as a whole is rejected, it is also written that a Moabite to the 10th generation, cannot enter the reign of God, then how do you explain Ruth who was a Moabite & who is in the genealogy of Christ before the 10th generation?

And I do not need to look at those things in Mecca, they are as idolatrous as many of the Christian relics and I say this as a Christian. Have you forgotten the Crusades? Have you forgotten the inquisitions? It was not just the “Jews” who were persecuted and killed, it was also Christians such as myself who honor His Sabbath, I just do not “Judaize” it as the Pharisees had done who Jesus & His apostles consistently rebuked and taught us not to follow the burdensome man-made doctrines of the Pharisees that make void the authority of God over our lives.

I also say this as a person whose great-great grandparents are buried in a Jewish cemetery in Prague.

And so what was, is what is, the Pharisees who made a compact with death (Rome) to destroy the remnant of Christ upon this earth, just as they attempted to destroy Christ on the stake. The Bible, from Genesis - Revelation is about destroying the seed that would become Christ and those who are His. There is a book called “Nazarene Jewish Christianity” by Ray A. Pritz (Magnes Press, Hebrew University, Jerusalem), in it the writer takes us through some of the writings of the early church fathers as well as the writings of the rabbis. No one was despised more than those such as the true followers of the apostles. Roman Christendom saw them as Judaizers and Jews saw them as heretics. These were the Bereans spoken in Acts 17, these are the remnant that the feet of iron & clay seek to destroy. Jerusalem sits on 7 hills and is the place where the blood of the prophets were shed. http://www.askelm.com/prophecy/p000201.htm The ones who shed the blood are defined as the woman who rides upon the beast and that woman is Talmudic Judaism who has deceived her people into thinking they are the chosen, when the bible defines the chosen as...

Rev 14:12 Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of God and the faith of Jesus.

44 posted on 03/15/2016 1:43:15 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
Do you even realize the text you are using is speaking of a GENTILE kingdom in Nebucanezer's dream ? The kingdom that Jesus is going to destroy is not Jewish it's a gentile kingdom and it's mixed (arab- H6151)

Dan 2:43 And whereasH1768 thou sawestH2370 ironH6523 mixedH6151 with miryH2917 clay,H2635 they shallH1934 mingle themselvesH6151 with the seedH2234 of men:H606 but they shallH1934 notH3809 cleaveH1693 oneH1836 toH5974 another,H1836 even asH1888 H1768 ironH6523 is notH3809 mixedH6151 withH5974 clay.H2635

Look God is not through with the Jews .
Is Israel perfect ? No
Does God still have plans for them ?
They have a ton of promises that are NOT yet fulfilled and God does not lie.
The tribulation is for the salvation of the Jewish nation. If you think God is not going to keep his promises to them what makes you think he is going to keep them for you?


Esau has lots of promises too that end in destruction. Look up what promises are made to Esau for the violence against their brother (oh and by the way the biblical word for violence just happens to hammas , just as one of the biblical words for curse just happens to allah)


Take a good look around you and tell me just who is beheading Christians these days in the middle east ?



Oh and BTW the seven mountains mentioned in Revalation are not hills , they are KINGDOMS - gentile kingdoms.
45 posted on 03/15/2016 2:28:31 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Lera
Zec 12:5 And the leaders of Judea shall say in their heart, ‘The inhabitants of Jerusalem are a strength to me, through YHWH (LORD) of hosts, their Elohim (God).’

The leaders of the land of Judea in the ends days do not worship the same God as the inhabitants (hidden remnant) of Jerusalem. The remnant being the hidden ones of Messiah (Christ)

Psa 83:3 They craftily plot against Your people, And conspire against Your hidden ones. 4 They have said, “Come, And let us wipe them out as a people, And let the name of Israel be remembered no more.”

Who is the Head of Israel and who are His people?

Isa 49:1 Listen to Me, O coastlands, and hear, you peoples from afar! YHWH (the LORD) has called Me from the womb, from My mother's belly He has caused My Name to be remembered. 2 And He made My mouth like a sharp sword, in the shadow of His hand He hid Me, and made Me a polished shaft. In His quiver He hid Me. 3 And He said to Me, ‘You are My servant, O Israel, in whom I am adorned.’

Messiah (Christ) is Israel, therefore, only those of His body are Israel.

John 1:10 He (the Son) was in the world, and the world came to be through Him (the Son), and the world did not know Him (the Son). 11 He (the Son) came to His own, and His own did not receive Him (the Son). 12 But as many as received Him (the Son), to them He (the Son) gave the authority to become children of Elohim (God), to those believing in His (the Son's) Name, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the desire of flesh nor of the desire of man, but of Elohim (God).

John is writing about those whom Paul wrote about in Hebrew chapter 11. At the beginning of Jesus’s ministry, He said...

John 3:13 “And no one has gone up into the heaven except He who came down from the heaven – the Son of Adam (mankind).”

Jesus said this before He had been crucified, died, resurrected & ascended to the Father to sit at the right hand of the Father until the time comes for Him to return to reign here on earth. He was reminding them that it was He who was with them in the Wilderness, it was He who was with Moses on the mountain, it was He who taught Moses His ways & His doctrines, it was He who's presence was with the Ark of the Covenant as they entered the Promised Land & it was He who lead them in battle.

And who said anything about God being done with the Jews? Did you not read that I was one of them? Jewishness isn't defined as ones genealogy, it is defined by ones religion, that of the Talmud of the rabbis called Judaism which you obviously know nothing about.

And I think you need to take a look around you as many are not who they say they are. There are wolves in sheep's clothing currently running for president and Trump is not one of these wolves, he stood before the wolves at AIPAC and rejected their money.

So yes, we are in the tribulation, however, are we in the last days of it? Only God knows. But what I do know is that the 7 hills, while yes they do refer the reigns that rule over the land, they also refer to the geography of the land because it is the place where the prophets were killed, those prophets who lived before Rome even existed.

Mat 23:29 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, 30 saying, 'If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' 31 Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? 34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35 so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar."

These men proved they were not of the seed of Israel, they were of the seed of Cain dressed up as the seed of Israel.

Israel, from the time that He, the Son, gave His name to Jacob, to the time of eternity when we are given a new name, Israel is defined by the bible as those of the faith of their Messiah by their belief in the Messiah. When that Messiah came in the flesh and many rejected Him, they showed that they were not of Israel. And yes, many to this day have a veil over their hearts that they will not recognize their Messiah until He returns, however, as in those days, many today are rejecting the Talmud & returning to Messiah and it is truly and amazing thing to watch.

I have been at both ends of the barrel, Judaism & Roman Christendom and neither are biblical religions. Both have some truths and both have a whole lot of lies. Messiah lies between them, neither a “Jew” or a “Christian” and so this is why these noahide laws of Judaism are critical. They are the seed of satan that seeks to remove the name of Christ & those who are His from this earth. If one looks at the doctrines of the church, the church has all but adopted these noahide laws save the name of Jesus.

http://www.answering-christianity.com/jews1.htm

46 posted on 03/15/2016 3:29:29 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Whenifhow

Wow!


47 posted on 03/15/2016 4:15:42 PM PDT by petercooper (All the world's problems are caused by the sandrats, hoodrats, gimmedats, democrats and commiecrats.)
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To: Whenifhow; surroundedbyblue; Old Sarge; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; freeangel; ...
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Back to the thread.

Check out # # 29 .

Thanks, Whenifhow.

48 posted on 03/15/2016 4:53:15 PM PDT by LucyT
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[[Zec 12:5 And the leaders of Judea shall say in their heart, ‘The inhabitants of Jerusalem are a strength to me, through YHWH (LORD) of hosts, their Elohim (God).’

The leaders of the land of Judea in the ends days do not worship the same God as the inhabitants (hidden remnant) of Jerusalem. The remnant being the hidden ones of Messiah (Christ)]]


Let’s just read the next two verses ...

(Zechariah 12:6) In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

(Zechariah 12:7) The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

Hmmm what did that say ? Oh yeah the LORD is going to physically save the inhabitants of Judah before he saves the inhabitants of Jerusalem

BTW this happens at Christ second coming after the national repentance of the children of Jacob (Great tribulation is the time of Jacob’s trouble - they are out of fellowship they are called after Jacob as when he was out of fellowship with God , His name was changed to Israel after wrestling all night and then he followed = see the picture Jacob out of fellowship to Israel in fellowship )

Now let’s just back up a bit and read this in context

(Zechariah 12:2) Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

(Zechariah 12:3) And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

(Zechariah 12:4) In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

It’s not the Jews laying siege against Jerusalem , it’s the nations round about . Hmmmmm who today want to take Jerusalem and march the Jews into the sea ? Could they be muslims ? You know the ones who have a gold domed abomination sitting squarely on the temple mount that has written all around it that God has no Son


[[Psa 83:3 They craftily plot against Your people, And conspire against Your hidden ones. 4 They have said, “Come, And let us wipe them out as a people, And let the name of Israel be remembered no more.”

Who is the Head of Israel and who are His people?]]


Now lets carefully look at the verse because there are two people there and ones that are hidden in Messiah and ones that are not . Well if you go to Israel today you will find plenty of people who are physical Jew who believe Jesus (Yeshua) is the Messiah THEY ARE HIDDEN IN MESSIAH ( I happen to know one of the pastors there and have prayed with him for years , I know what he believes because we both believe the same thing - He is a Jew by birth and hidden in Messiah by second birth )

So lets continue to read the following verses in context ok

(Psalms 83:4) They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

(Psalms 83:5) For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

(Psalms 83:6) The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

(Psalms 83:7) Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;

(Psalms 83:8) Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.

So these people around them that want to cut them off from being a nation , who are these people ? Oh my goodness carbon copies of the muslims who surround Israel right now that want to cut them off from being a nation and want to drive them into the sea .


[[Isa 49:1 Listen to Me, O coastlands, and hear, you peoples from afar! YHWH (the LORD) has called Me from the womb, from My mother’s belly He has caused My Name to be remembered. 2 And He made My mouth like a sharp sword, in the shadow of His hand He hid Me, and made Me a polished shaft. In His quiver He hid Me. 3 And He said to Me, ‘You are My servant, O Israel, in whom I am adorned.’

Messiah (Christ) is Israel, therefore, only those of His body are Israel.

John 1:10 He (the Son) was in the world, and the world came to be through Him (the Son), and the world did not know Him (the Son). 11 He (the Son) came to His own, and His own did not receive Him (the Son). 12 But as many as received Him (the Son), to them He (the Son) gave the authority to become children of Elohim (God), to those believing in His (the Son’s) Name, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the desire of flesh nor of the desire of man, but of Elohim (God).

John is writing about those whom Paul wrote about in Hebrew chapter 11. At the beginning of Jesus’s ministry, He said...

John 3:13 “And no one has gone up into the heaven except He who came down from the heaven – the Son of Adam (mankind).”

Jesus said this before He had been crucified, died, resurrected & ascended to the Father to sit at the right hand of the Father until the time comes for Him to return to reign here on earth. He was reminding them that it was He who was with them in the Wilderness, it was He who was with Moses on the mountain, it was He who taught Moses His ways & His doctrines, it was He who’s presence was with the Ark of the Covenant as they entered the Promised Land & it was He who lead them in battle.

And who said anything about God being done with the Jews? Did you not read that I was one of them? Jewishness isn’t defined as ones genealogy, it is defined by ones religion, that of the Talmud of the rabbis called Judaism which you obviously know nothing about.

And I think you need to take a look around you as many are not who they say they are. There are wolves in sheep’s clothing currently running for president and Trump is not one of these wolves, he stood before the wolves at AIPAC and rejected their money.

So yes, we are in the tribulation, however, are we in the last days of it? Only God knows. But what I do know is that the 7 hills, while yes they do refer the reigns that rule over the land, they also refer to the geography of the land because it is the place where the prophets were killed, those prophets who lived before Rome even existed.

Mat 23:29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, 30 saying, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 Thus you witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? 34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your synagogues and persecute from town to town, 35 so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar.”

These men proved they were not of the seed of Israel, they were of the seed of Cain dressed up as the seed of Israel.

Israel, from the time that He, the Son, gave His name to Jacob, to the time of eternity when we are given a new name, Israel is defined by the bible as those of the faith of their Messiah by their belief in the Messiah. When that Messiah came in the flesh and many rejected Him, they showed that they were not of Israel. And yes, many to this day have a veil over their hearts that they will not recognize their Messiah until He returns, however, as in those days, many today are rejecting the Talmud & returning to Messiah and it is truly and amazing thing to watch.

I have been at both ends of the barrel, Judaism & Roman Christendom and neither are biblical religions. Both have some truths and both have a whole lot of lies. Messiah lies between them, neither a “Jew” or a “Christian” and so this is why these noahide laws of Judaism are critical. They are the seed of satan that seeks to remove the name of Christ & those who are His from this earth. If one looks at the doctrines of the church, the church has all but adopted these noahide laws save the name of Jesus.]]


What you are missing here is that God has promised to bring the children of Jacob back into the land
He even says he will bring them back in unbelief
and that he is going to pour clean water on them and pour out his Spirit upon them .

There are 71 nations on earth (ethnos not countries but ethnos ) 70 of those are gentiles of which God promised to gather a people out of TO MAKE HIS PEOPLE JEALOUS AND TURN BACK TO HIM

God is not done with Israel but time is quickly running out on the gentile nations that gather against it . They may be out of fellowship with him for the most part but that is not going to last forever .

Weather you like it or not God loves them and it is up to THEM to call Jesus back .

(Luke 13:34) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!

(Luke 13:35) Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

see that ? He is coming back when they say Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Baruch haba


49 posted on 03/15/2016 4:59:32 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Lera

I used to think, the more I learned about Ted Cruz, the more I like him. Now, that the truth has been brought into the light, I am disgusted by the so-called man.

I never liked Rubio and I do not like people with his personality. I never have liked them (and they’re quite visible), but have tried very hard to treat them with the respect every human deserves. He makes it a little difficult but that’s his problem not mine.

We need something done in this nation and apparently the world. I believe Donald Trump truly does love this nation.

From what I have seen, Donald Trump does know what’s going on with “common core” and so much more...he’s been in the groove in other “Islamic” friendly nations and he talks to people who are ingrained...he knows what he’s doing here...it always turns out that he did, a few weeks later, just like it did here.

Pray for this nation and the world, of course. Do something about it...act, of course. Islam is the problem. Vote Trump. Nobody else has our back.


50 posted on 03/15/2016 5:16:40 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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[[Yaell, love ya, dear, but I’m looking for some tangible proof that islam funded Common Core.

I hate both. But I don’t think that means there is a link. I’d love to tar Common Core with the Islamist brush. But I need to SEE that first. If you can show me a link, I’ll go look, and publish that with regularity.

Shalom, Sister!]]

Here you go ...
This is one of the textbooks being used in California or at least it was one of the first ones to pop up with islamic teaching in US public schools and CAIR is behind this one (muslim brotherhood ties)

http://www.textbookleague.org/113centu.htm

Houghton Mifflin, the publisher of a 7th-grade textbook called Across the Centuries, has been less discreet. Across the Centuries is freighted with Muslim religious propaganda, much like the stuff in World Cultures — but in the case of Across the Centuries, we can infer where the propaganda originated. When we look at the list of “Consultants” shown on the book’s copyright page, we find “Shabbir Mansuri, Founding Director, Council on Islamic Education, Fountain Valley, California.” And when we look at the lesson titled “Muhammad and Islam,” in the book’s third chapter, we discover what the word “Education” apparently means to Mansuri and his Council.

I can’t find it now in my bookmarks but I know that some of the stuff is being written in England by muslims too


51 posted on 03/15/2016 5:31:21 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: jacknhoo

To be fair Cruz has said that he would do away with Common Core if elected


common core hides islamic indoctrination encouraging conversion to islam and obamacare is a tax on all non muslims which again will encourage conversion for economic reasons once people figure it out


52 posted on 03/15/2016 5:35:46 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Lera
The children of Jacob ARE those of the body of Messiah, it is just that many do not know that yet! Jacob wrestled with the messenger of Elohim (God) and that Messenger was Messiah who then gave Jacob His name.

So you are grasping at straws, regurgitating the myths & lies of the religions of men. And might I remind you...

Rom 9:6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel,
Rom 11:1 I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel?
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened,
Rom 11:8 as it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”
Rom 11:9 And David says, “Let their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them;
Rom 11:10 let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see, and bend their backs forever.”
Rom 11:11 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous.
Rom 11:12 Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!
Rom 11:13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry
Rom 11:14 in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them.
Rom 11:15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?
Rom 11:16 If the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the root is holy, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you.
Rom 11:19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”
Rom 11:20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear.
Rom 11:21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.

Gal 3:16 But the promises were spoken to Abraham, and to his Seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Messiah.

Jacob being of Abraham, then Jacob also is of the “seed” of Messiah

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those keeping the commands of Elohim (God) and possessing the testimony of Yeshua (Jesus) the Messiah.

And whether you like it or not, God loves all of His creation, not just the Judaizers, however, those who refuse to set their ‘Judaizing aside’ will not enter the land during the reign of Messiah.

The Word of YHWH (the Son, the Word, the Way, the Truth & the Life) spoke to Ezekiel saying

Eze 20:33 As I live, declares the Master YHWH, do not I, with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with wrath poured out, reign over you? 34 And I shall bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the lands where you are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with wrath poured out. 35 And I shall bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and shall enter into judgment with you face to face there. 36 As I entered into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I shall enter into judgment with you, declares the Master YHWH. 37 And I shall make you pass under the rod, and shall bring you into the bond of the covenant, 38 and purge the rebels from among you, and those who transgress against Me. From the land where they sojourn I bring them out, but they shall not come into the land of Israel. And you shall know that I am YHWH.

Not all who say they are of Israel are Israel. Not all who are Israel have repented and returned to the Head of Israel who is the Son. The Son gathers back to His land those who are His and not until that day. So any regime ruling over the land until that time is not of Elohim (God). The scepter has departed from Judah and according to Messiah, He has chosen those who are not His to rule over His vineyard until He returns.

So yes, there are those in the land that are Israel, but only God knows who they are, because only God knows the hearts of men and He knows not all of the flesh will humble themselves before Him, they will go the same way as the unbelieving Pharisees of old.

Eze 21:25 And to you, O profane, wrong one, leader of Isrel, whose day has come, in the time of the crookedness of the end, 26 thus said the Master YHWH, ‘Remove the turban, and take off the crown! This shall not remain! Exalt the humble, and humble the exalted. 27 ‘Overthrown, overthrown, I make it overthrown! It shall be no longer, until He (Messiah) comes to whom it rightly belongs – and I shall give it!’

53 posted on 03/15/2016 5:36:53 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

Wow! There is soooooo much more than Birtherism down there in the fever swamp! Who knew????


54 posted on 03/15/2016 5:43:18 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Lera

Common core ties to Libya, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/7/bethany-blankley-parents-must-reject-common-core-i/?page=all


55 posted on 03/15/2016 5:50:39 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: patlin

I am not the one regurgitating anything

You are the one that keeps stopping short on your scripture
Read the rest of Romans 11

Oh and there are plenty of tares in the so called church that hate the Jews and don’t want to see God fulfill their promises to them that call themselves Israel and are NOT
They are exactly like the Judizars you speak of but in reverse

(Romans 11:17) And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

(Romans 11:18) Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

(Romans 11:19) Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

(Romans 11:20) Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

(Romans 11:21) For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

(Romans 11:22) Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

(Romans 11:23) And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

(Romans 11:24) For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

(Romans 11:25) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

(Romans 11:26) And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

(Romans 11:27) For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

(Romans 11:28) As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.

(Romans 11:29) For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

(Romans 11:30) For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

(Romans 11:31) Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

(Romans 11:32) For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

(Romans 11:33) O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!


56 posted on 03/15/2016 5:54:57 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Lera

You are confusing being of the tribe of Judah with being a Jew, which means to be a Judaizer who is one who practices or accepts as their religion the doctrines of the Talmud. And you also seem to have a comprehension problem as I specifically said that many “Jews” will turn from Judaism and accept the Messiah when He returns...

They shall look upon Him who they pierced and they will mourn as if they are mourning over their first born son.

But it all goes back to, they are not all Israel who are Israel. Israel is neither Jew nor Greek. When they came out of Egypt they were a mixed multitude, Caleb being one of them, he was grafted into the tribe of Judah. Caleb, the grafted in gentile was given the land of Hebron where Abraham is buried.

Have you not read the writings of the New Testament that state that the unbelievers do not enter the land, just as the unbelievers did not enter the promised land, but instead, they died in their sin in the wilderness.

Not all “Jews” are Zionists and not all Zionists are “Jews”, but one thing is for sure, Zionism is of the anti-Christ and those who believe in it are in for a very rude awakening when Messiah returns.


57 posted on 03/15/2016 6:04:32 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Uncle Miltie

[[Common core ties to Libya, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/7/bethany-blankley-parents-must-reject-common-core-i/?page=all]]

Thank you Mr Mojo :)
Yes they have a plan to turn America Islamic
and if they grab the minds of American children
that is exactly what will happen.
Common Core must be stopped and Obamacare must be stopped
too

Obamacare is essentially a tax on non muslims
as it becomes more and more expensive it gives muslims an economic edge . Not just the cost of the insurance but a hefty edge if your company doesn’t have to buy it because you are exempt


58 posted on 03/15/2016 6:12:23 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: patlin

[[You are confusing being of the tribe of Judah with being a Jew, which means to be a Judaizer ]]

Dude what have you been smoking ?

Yehudah = Judah
IT IS WHERE WE GET THE SLANG WORD JEW


59 posted on 03/15/2016 6:14:34 PM PDT by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: patlin
Zionism is of the anti-Christ and those who believe in it are in for a very rude awakening when Messiah returns.

Why would the creation and support of a Jewish state in the ancient homeland of the Jews be "of the anti-Christ"? Would you prefer that jihadis controlled the area? Would that be more "pro-Christ" in your opinion?

60 posted on 03/15/2016 6:32:21 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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