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To: Springfield Reformer
1) Presidents do not make law, they sign Acts of Congress into law.

2) If you want to invoke God, then what does God say about this subject of electing a leader,

Deu 17:14 When you come to the land which YHWH your Elohim is giving you, and shall possess it and shall dwell in it, and you shall say, ‘Let me set a sovereign over me like all the gentiles that are around me,’ 15 you shall certainly set a sovereign over you whom YHWH your Elohim shall choose. Set a sovereign over you from among your brothers, you are not allowed to set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.

Biblical genealogy flows from the father to his children. Biblical wives are of the same nationality as their husbands. The Library of Congress states that from 1790 to 1950, wives and children followed the nationality of their husbands/fathers respectively. Even the 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act states this.

Therefore, you are simply uneducated in the citizenship laws of the United States and also that of your bible.

55 posted on 03/10/2016 10:50:44 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledgee chosen to participate inthat is - 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

I wouldn’t vote for a dog-catcher who thought it was OK to kill babies. I’d keep them out of any position in government. It’s a monstrosity and the only reason the modern generation can push it aside so easily is they’ve forgotten the horror of it in the eyes of God. I just hope God has mercy on us and leads us out of the nightmare before we come under irreversible judgment. So don’t lecture me about God’s citizenship laws for Israel whilst you embrace someone who sanctions murder.

Peace,

SR


69 posted on 03/11/2016 12:14:16 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: patlin

Regarding who is a Jew and who is foreigner, Jewish Law says Jewishness passes through one’s mother.

“Who is a Jew?

A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.”

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

Notice it does not say born in Israel. They are natural born Jews by maternal lineage and naturalized Jews by conversion.

As I recall, the Bible doesn’t define Jew or foreigner, so the rabbis had to figure this out. Similarly, the Constitution doesn’t define natural born citizen, so the Congress has to figure it out, and has done so beginning with its very first act, in 1790. But, if you know where in the Bible it defines who is a natural born Jew, who a naturalized Jew and who is a foreigner, I’d love to hear.

BTW what do you think of the prohibition in the Bible against taking foreign wives?


142 posted on 03/13/2016 9:53:54 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: patlin

I see that you invoke Biblical genealogies. Both Jesus’ maternal and paternal genealogy is given. I should tie down when and why the rabbis decided upon maternal lineage: it was in the second century AD. There are two reasons why: First, rape and such, from the time of the captivity to the dispersion of the Jews following the fall of Jerusalem, Jews became concerned about the implications of insisting on paternal lineage. Maternal lineage was at least uncontroversial. Second, it is that the culture of Judaism is more transmitted by the housekeeper than by the breadwinner.


143 posted on 03/13/2016 10:09:06 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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