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To: Pravious

The head-to-head polls show Cruz winning against Hillary and Trump losing to her.


8 posted on 03/09/2016 2:05:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

however, when trump wins, he and not Ted will be the one defeating Hillary (if she is still walking around)


14 posted on 03/09/2016 2:06:50 PM PST by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The head-to-head polls show Cruz winning against Hillary and Trump losing to her.”

And I’m supposed to believe that... why?

Oh, yeah. Must be because America has ALWAYS shown a preference for slimy, Bible-thumping lawyers...


22 posted on 03/09/2016 2:09:26 PM PST by Pravious
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yep. Trump beats Hillary on the issues, but Cruz beats her on personality and likability.

There is just not that big of a gap between Cruz and Trump on the issues.

Roughly half of your voters are analytical and will go with the candidate who is with them on most issues. The other half is emotional and will go with the likability factor. You need enough of both groups to win.

58 posted on 03/09/2016 2:25:56 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The head-to-head polls show Cruz winning against Hillary and Trump losing to her.”

The national ones do, but they’re irrelevant.

Trump is the only republican who beats Hillary in FL.

And he’s the only one capable of taking away a blue state (like MI) from the dems.


119 posted on 03/09/2016 3:22:40 PM PST by JPJones
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Trump supporters have some strange logic. A month ago, Cruz had no friends and was unelectable because none of his peers could stand him. Now, because some establishment types seem to believe that Cruz has a better chance in the general, he is some secret GOPe agent.

The establishment is simply trying to avoid what they feel will be losses in the general election - and damage to the GOP “brand” - if Trump is the nominee. It’s pretty simple. I’m not sure they even believe either of them can actually win. But they appear to be starting to go Cruz to mitigate damage.

The strange thing is that I am not sure their premise is correct. I know some head to head polls show Trump losing to Hillary, but the same polls have Bernie winning against everyone. I don’t really buy the Bernie scores, so I can’t simply take the scores convenient to the candidate I prefer. I tend to think Trump might do well against he in the General Election, especially once he makes his inevitable move to the left.

The obvious thing nobody seems to want to come to terms with is that although Republicans can win with an non-establishment candidate, we cannot win with a candidate the establishment will not vote for. Just like Romney didn’t win without a whole lot of conservative folks that had voted for McCain but didn’t show up for him, neither Cruz nor Trump can win without at least some support of moderate Republican-leaning voters. I REALLY WISH THAT WEREN’T TRUE, but it is. We need them until the majority of voters are Constitutionalist conservatives... and they certainly are not.

So in the end, both Cruz and Trump will have to take some folks onto their team that settle the establishment types a bit. It’s just a matter of when. I don’t like typing it any more than others like reading it, but both will have to try to expand their base without losing who they are. It’s just easier for Trump, since he can be whatever is necessary.


132 posted on 03/09/2016 3:32:33 PM PST by madconservative
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