[Lazamataz]

In between the time the GOP is destroyed and a new party is built from the ground up, Democrats will seize control of both houses of Congress and be able to stack the Supreme Court. They'll invent new Constitutional rights/doctrines that cannot be reversed by the Democratic process. And if they gain control of both branches and the Presidency, they'll legalize and grant fast-track citizenship to illegals. The new party will be swamped before it ever gains electoral traction. And before someone claims that Republicans will do that anyway, remember that the Gang of 8 bill did not pass. You cannot get rid of the GOP in Congress overnight, or before an opposition/replacement is ready to go. And that's got to happen on a seat-by-seat basis, not by "let's throw the bums out and then worry about what happens next afterwards." The left will drive through that window of opportunity, and there will be no chances left to stop them.

That dog don't hunt. What you describe has already happened. And that is under GOP rule.

We don't HAVE an opposition party, so the rest of your premises are invalid.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

That dog don't hunt. What you describe has already happened. And that is under GOP rule.

No, it hasn't.

GOP rule gave us Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Kennedy, Roberts, and Souter. All of them are not great (Souter is horrible), but in most cases, the only reason that Republicans didn't get more conservative justices is because they would have been filibustered or outrihgt voted down.

And before you go off on Robert's rogue votes on ObamaCare, remember that 5 GOP-appointed Justices saved the Second Amendment in a sqeaker 5-4 vote, and knocked down unconstitutional restrictions on political speech in Citizens United. Not to mention that absent GOP opposition to the FEC, there would be additional content-based restrictions on political speech that could impact sites such as this one and Drudge.

So whatever else they've screwed up, thank the GOP that the First and Second Amendment. Those are not minimalist "sweep under the rug because they don't really matter" accmplishments. They matter a hell of a lot.

But if you're not happy about what this Supreme Court did with Obamacare, just imagine what Scalia's replacement is going to do when lined up next to Breyer, Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Souter. And since you also said destroying the GOP is a good thing even if Trump doesn't get elected, consider what a few more Hillary nominations confirmed by a Democratic Senate would mean.

Obama issued all those executive orders and regulations that conservative complain about because the GOP Congress wouldn't pass the laws he wanted. And if you expect Trump to go in there and, on Day 1, reverse all those Obama executive orders, then you can thank the GOP Congress for forcing Obama into easily-reversed Executive Orders rather than far more permanent legislation.

Under GOP rule in Congress, the Gang of Eight failed. In a Democratic Congress and Democratic President, it not only passes, but it a much worse form.

You're a smart guy and a lot of people listen to you. But advocating that Republicans in Congress get smashed before replacements are actually ready to go just turns the whole thing over to a party that is much, much worse.

Consider this. Most people here are angry at the Republicans for not doing enough to stop Obama, like refusing to fund the government. So what kind of sense does it make to replace people who don't fight as hard as you'd like with people who will actively support and encourage his goals?

It's suicide.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

That dog don't hunt. What you describe has already happened. And that is under GOP rule.

No, it hasn't.

GOP rule gave us Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Kennedy, Roberts, and Souter. All of them are not great (Souter is horrible), but in most cases, the only reason that Republicans didn't get more conservative justices is because they would have been filibustered or outrihgt voted down.

And before you go off on Robert's rogue votes on ObamaCare, remember that 5 GOP-appointed Justices saved the Second Amendment in a sqeaker 5-4 vote, and knocked down unconstitutional restrictions on political speech in Citizens United. Not to mention that absent GOP opposition to the FEC, there would be additional content-based restrictions on political speech that could impact sites such as this one and Drudge.

So whatever else they've screwed up, thank the GOP that the First and Second Amendment. Those are not minimalist "sweep under the rug because they don't really matter" accmplishments. They matter a hell of a lot.

But if you're not happy about what this Supreme Court did with Obamacare, just imagine what Scalia's replacement is going to do when lined up next to Breyer, Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Souter. And since you also said destroying the GOP is a good thing even if Trump doesn't get elected, consider what a few more Hillary nominations confirmed by a Democratic Senate would mean.

Obama issued all those executive orders and regulations that conservative complain about because the GOP Congress wouldn't pass the laws he wanted. And if you expect Trump to go in there and, on Day 1, reverse all those Obama executive orders, then you can thank the GOP Congress for forcing Obama into easily-reversed Executive Orders rather than far more permanent legislation.

Under GOP rule in Congress, the Gang of Eight failed. In a Democratic Congress and Democratic President, it not only passes, but it a much worse form.

You're a smart guy and a lot of people listen to you. But advocating that Republicans in Congress get smashed before replacements are actually ready to go just turns the whole thing over to a party that is much, much worse.

Consider this. Most people here are angry at the Republicans for not doing enough to stop Obama, like refusing to fund the government. So what kind of sense does it make to replace people who don't fight as hard as you'd like with people who will actively support and encourage his goals?

It's suicide.