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To: nitzy

Yes, the reason for the rule is to make sure the establishment gets who they want, and not who the people want. If Trump gets over 50% of the delegates, he should get the nomination whether you like it or not. And furthermore, either all primaries and caucuses should be proportional, or all should be winner take all. Why should states like Florida have more say than Texas?

Sometimes I wonder if any of you paid attention to the last primary cycle?

Here is what you need to note, the voters did not move toward Romney as each candidate was slimed and dropped out. They moved to the next candidate standing. Romney never had more than 30% of the vote AT MOST and usually when he “won” the early states, he had about 20% of the vote, but he was the anointed one and he had the money and the backing. So, finally, as the winner take all states came into play there really was not anyone left except Ron Paul, and at that point Paul started getting bigger numbers of vote but not enough, so Romney took all the big states — hence he had enough states with a majority of delegates although he never really had the support of the base.

So what you people need to understand, Bush would be doing as Romney did, a small percentage of the votes, and each candidate slimed in turn, running out of money, and withdrawing until only Bush is left, and then because no one is left, he then takes the winner-take-all states, meeting that majority state rule, even if one or another of the candidates does have a large number of delegates.

Do you think for one minute, if Trump was not in the race, Cruz would be? Cruz would be utterly trashed, he would be out of the race by now, Bush would be hanging in there, winning nothing, but forcing the other candidates out, one by one, until only he was left standing. Remember he said he was going to win without winning the primaries.

So at this point, if you do not realize what is happening, if you do not consolidate behind Trump NOW: YOU WILL SEE BUSH AS THE NOMINEE, or possibly Romney. (They are not going to give this to Rubio, they are going to make an issue of his citizenship — as they should!)


216 posted on 03/02/2016 9:15:15 AM PST by erkelly
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To: erkelly
Do you think for one minute, if Trump was not in the race, Cruz would be? Cruz would be utterly trashed, he would be out of the race by now,

One of my reasons for voting Trump over Cruz in Tx. I love me some Ted Cruz and although he can handle some media assault I think Trump is a greater master at it and unfortunately in this turbulent, acidic culture it will be a very necessary talent for our candidate to win in November.

224 posted on 03/02/2016 9:25:28 AM PST by tflabo (res about them)
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To: erkelly
I agree that the primary cycle is messed up and should be changed. That has nothing to do with the upcoming convention. I also agree that if Trump gets over 50% he should get the nomination. The question is.. What happens if he gets less than 50%? Do you force Cruz and Rubio's delegates to vote for him on the second ballot?

Do you think for one minute, if Trump was not in the race, Cruz would be? Cruz would be utterly trashed, he would be out of the race by now

You are wrong here. All of the exit polls are showing the biggest motivator is disappointment and frustration with the Republican party. Cruz has been banging this drum for a couple years now.

Watch this

If this isn't a complete take down of the inept Republican leadership, I don't know what is. Cruz shares the frustration. It just doesn't play well along side Trump's over the top "outsider" status. It's hard to "out-outsider" the orange guy with crazy hair sputtering out a string of insults and swear words every night on the news.

The GOPe has been angling for a brokered convention from the beginning. They wanted Trump to be the primary winner because he will be easier to demonize and take it away from. The time between March 15 and the convention, you are going to see so much come out about Trump that even die hard supporters like you will be relieved when they take the nomination away. It will be like the last months and weeks of the Bush presidency with scandal after scandal after negative story after negative story. Cruz on the other hand would have been impossible to take it away from. He is vetted. He has been through the gauntlet of both the Republicans AND the Democrats and survived.

Personally, I don't think they are going to give it to Bush. They are going to give it to Paul Ryan. His selection as SOTH was a trial balloon to see if he could be tolerated by conservatives. He passed the test.

289 posted on 03/02/2016 11:58:56 AM PST by nitzy (I don't vote for Republican'ts)
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