Is Donald Dumbing It Down for the Trumpsters?

Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | Feb 29, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh/Caller

[GLDNGUN]

You did NOT hear the tape. Give me a break. You lied. Game over.

[Elsie]

I never have before, and I did just check the record.

You got me; as I haven't 'checked the record'.

Could you please show just WHERE; in the record; that this QUOTE from Trump is found?

I don't mind being corrected; when I am wrong; as I don't want to continue to spout inaccuracies.

---

This 'I could shoot somebody and they'd still love me' crap is really a demonstration of how much contempt Trump feels for his supporters.

[Elsie]

... failed at Trump Airlines... failed at Trump Vodka... four bankruptcies... Three marriages... failed at Trump Mortgage Co... failed at Trump Casinos

...and picked himself up; dusted off the seat of his pants, and kept on going!

[Elsie]

Another day;
A glorious sunrise;
Super Tuesday is past.

[Carry_Okie]

Could you please show just WHERE; in the record; that this QUOTE from Trump is found?

If you were reading carefully, you would have noted single quotes. My point was that I was not "continuing."

This is the video to which I am certain you refer. He's touting the loyalty of his supporters, but for the inference I took required more. He even talks about how "I love the poorly educated," as opposed to saying 'you don't need a great edcuation to be intelligent or to have common sense. You don't even need a gread education to be highly educated.' If he'd ever said something like that, I wouldn't have made the comment. Instead, he "loves" the poorly educated because of their particular loyalty to him. It's a condescending, 'the little people love me.' Deal with it. The man is a narcissistic psychopath.

[Just mythoughts]

The man is a narcissistic psychopath.

Perhaps you might reread some of your posts... Talk about talking down to people...

[TexasCajun]

Super Tuesday is past and still nothing is settled.

Republican delegate count

Trump, while leading, is 921 delegates short of the nomination.

[Carry_Okie]

Perhaps you might reread some of your posts...

Then according to you I should recognize it. Thank you for your confirmation.

[Just mythoughts]

Then according to you I should recognize it. Thank you for your confirmation.

Double standards, is the GOPe MO.

[Carry_Okie]

Double standards, is the GOPe MO.

LOL, that was pretty desperate. If you can't do better, I'll just have to be as habitually insulting as the Dupes for Donald. You wouldn't want to be one of THOSE.

Sheesh.

[Just mythoughts]

LOL, that was pretty desperate. If you can't do better, I'll just have to be as habitually insulting as the Dupes for Donald. You wouldn't want to be one of THOSE. Sheesh.

I recognize the bell curve when it is practiced... And I am loving every minute of the bell curvers getting exposed by Trump... It is quite delicious.

[Carry_Okie]

Double standards, is the GOPe MO.

See? Isn't trading insults fun?

Not. I just gave you a stiff dose of your own bile.

I criticized Trump. Rather than disprove the allegation (which you apparently could not) you just attack the poster. Attack, attack, attack... that's the Trump MO, flinging insults. It's wrecked this campaigned and poisoned many an independent voter, but you apparently don't care. 'Just win baby.' For what? Socialized medicine? Making millions of illegal aliens into future Democrats? Taking a chainsaw to the First Amendment? Federal land use control? Just what is it about Trump that is so attractive, other than giving you license to vent your spleen?

Me, GOPe? After having deferred two million dollars and spent seventeen years of my life WAY beyond full time to restore Constitutional government, and watching Trump's supporters go wild for a would-be despot? The man has no concept for limited government, and a history that suggests a preference for its converse. Yet since you can't defend that, attack, attack, attack... blind, flailing, and devoid of content. Go for it. Vent that anger. Trump will see that you'll get it back, good and hard.

[Elsie]

 

 I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters.

Dang!  You're RIGHT!!  Trump DID say that!!!

Selective editting works ONLY if the COMPLETE statement is not revealed.

“And you know what else they say about my people? The polls! They say I have the most loyal people. Did you ever see that? Where I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters. It’s incredible.”

 

 

I say SHAME on SNOPES!!!   http://www.snopes.com/donald-trump-fifth-avenue-comment/

 

[Elsie]

If he'd ever said something like that, I wouldn't have made the comment.

Really; you complain about something he did NOT say??

[Elsie]

Trump, while leading, is 921 delegates short of the nomination.

Cruz, while in second place, is 1014 delegates short of the nomination.
Rubio, while in third place, is 1130 delegates short of the nomination.
Kasich, while in fourth place, is 1215 delegates short of the nomination.
Carson , while in fifth place, is 1232 delegates short of the nomination.

[Carry_Okie]

I already checked that out. Here's reality: NOBODY but Trump used that metaphor. He invented it and then attributed it falsely to mythical pollsters. It's a fantasy. Trump deals in fantasy. He did it for a purpose, to amp up (falsely) the degree of adulation he enjoys.

Hence my point. This guy went to Warton. That's equivalent to Harvard or Stanford. He knows what he's saying for effect is insubstantial and sure as heck wouldn't make a decision based upon the kind of bluster he's offering. He sells fantasy. It's his stock and trade and has been for twenty years.

[Elsie]

NOBODY but Trump used that metaphor. He invented it and then attributed it falsely to mythical pollsters.

and here is MY point...

...folks have truncated what was actually said to make it seem a LOT more damning than it really was.

That, my FRiend; is taking a hyperbolic statement and making into something MUCH worse than a 'fantasy'.

---

He sells fantasy. It's his stock and trade and has been for twenty years.

Ok; which candidate(s); on EITHER side of the aisle; does NOT do this?

 

2000

• "Leadership for the New Millennium" – Al Gore presidential campaign
• "Prosperity and Progress" – alternative slogan of the Al Gore presidential campaign
• "Compassionate Conservatism" – George W Bush presidential campaign

2004

• "A Safer World and a More Hopeful America" – George W. Bush presidential campaign
• "A Stronger America" – John Kerry 2004
• "Let America Be America Again" – John Kerry presidential campaign alternative slogan
• "Dean for America" – Howard Dean campaign slogan

2008

• "Yes We Can" – Barack Obama campaign chant, 2008
• "Change We Can Believe In." Also, simply: "Change." – 2008 US presidential campaign slogan of Barack Obama during the Democratic primaries.
• "Change We Need." and "Change." – 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Barack Obama during the general election.
• "Fired up! Ready to go!" – Barack Obama campaign chant, 2008
• "Hope" – 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of Barack Obama during the general election.
• "Country First" – 2008 U.S. presidential campaign slogan of John McCain
• "Reform, prosperity and peace" – 2008 U.S. Presidential motto of John McCain.^[8][9]
• "People Fighting Back, or We'll fight back" – Ralph Nader campaign slogan
• "Ready for change, ready to lead" – Hillary Clinton campaign slogan, also "Big Challenges, Real Solutions: Time to Pick a President", "In to Win", "Working for Change, Working for You", and "The strength and experience to make change happen".^[10]

2012

• "Forward" – 2012 U.S. Presidential slogan of Barack Obama.
• "Believe in America" – 2012 U.S. Presidential slogan of Mitt Romney.
• "Restore America Now" – 2012 U.S. Presidential slogan of Ron Paul.
• "The People's President" – Gary Johnson campaign slogan
• "A Green New Deal for America" – Official slogan of the Jill Stein campaign
• "Citizenship Matters" – Virgil Goode campaign slogan
• "Obama Isn't Working" – slogan used by Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign, a takeoff of "Labour Isn't Working," similar campaign previously used by the British Conservative Party
• "Restore Our Future" – slogan used by Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign

2016

• "Make America Great Again" – used by Donald Trump's campaign, was also used by Ronald Reagan in the 1980 election (see above).^[11]
• "A Future To Believe In" – used by Bernie Sanders' campaign, also "Feel The Bern"
• "Hillary For America" – used by Hillary Clinton's campaign, most recently, "Fighting for us" and "I'm With Her"
• "A New American Century" – used by Marco Rubio's campaign.
• "Courageous Conservatives" and "Reigniting the Promise of America" – used by Ted Cruz's campaign, also "TRUSTED," "A Time for Truth," and "Defeat the Washington Cartel"
• "Jeb!", "Jeb can fix it", and "All in for Jeb" – used by Jeb Bush's campaign.,^[12] also "Right to Rise"
• "Heal. Inspire. Revive." – used by Ben Carson's campaign.
• "From Hope to Higher Ground" – used by Mike Huckabee's campaign.^[13]
• "New Possibilities. Real Leadership." – used by Carly Fiorina's campaign.^[11]
• "Defeat the Washington Machine. Unleash the American Dream." – used by Rand Paul's campaign^[14][15]
• "Tanned, Rested, Ready."– used by Bobby Jindal's campaign
• "Telling it like it is."– used by Chris Christie's campaign
• "Kasich For America" – used by John Kasich's campaign
• "Hillary for Prison" – 2016 anti-Hillary Clinton slogan against Clinton's alleged mishandling of the 2012 Benghazi attack ^[16] 

[CIB-173RDABN]

“Complain about all the bad things but give no real solutions (other than build a wall and winning)”

---

If a person running for office were to give a clear, precise, method for solving individual problems we faced today, he (or she) could not be elected.

What would happen is that the opposition and the media (and in many cases both being the same) would pour over the details of the solution, cherry pick words and phrases, take them out of context, create straw men arguments, and to really mix metaphors, beat that candidate about their head and shoulders with their own words.

They would immediately be put on defensive and would most likely lose. At least they would have the warm and fuzzie feeling they had solutions to the problems.

All political campaigns are built on lies why would you expect anything else in American politics. There is certainly no ruling body that will force a candidate to honor their campaign promises. Certainly the voters seldom hold them accountable.

[for-q-clinton]

hmmm....so lying is now good. Got it.

[Carry_Okie]

Posting tag lines as if they constituted the total substance of those campaigns is a false and misleading case for whether the they compare objectively with the bulk of Trump's unsubstantiated hyperbole lacking any specificity as to HOW he intends to accomplish his "promises."

That's a difference. We don't need full documents, just examples. For example, if he's going to empy Los Angeles of criminal illegals and drug gangs, just how does he propose to gain custody of them? SWAT teams? How many kids would die in that war? We haven't heard a word, NOTHING to give that promise any sense of reality.

Trump SAYS he engages in hyperbole and feeds fantasies as a negotiating tactic. Fantasy is no basis for electing a President.