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To: CodeToad
Apple: We CAN’T OPEN THAT iPhone!
FED: Yes, you can.
Apple: OK, we can, we just don’t want to.

Such liberal liars.

Exactly. They are tying to win a bigger share of the market by advertising to people that their phones are so secure, that not even the US Federal government with a SEARCH WARRANT can get into them.

Basically going for the "criminally inclined" marketing Demographic.

Apple overlooked the fact that their phones can be updated while locked, and can thereafter be "brute-force" opened.

Now they are scrambling to prevent anyone from exploiting this oversight until they can find a work around.

I guess they will move the "number of tries" subroutine into the "secure enclave" or something. That way, updating the phone can't work around it.

37 posted on 02/29/2016 1:01:56 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I guess they will move the "number of tries" subroutine into the "secure enclave" or something. That way, updating the phone can't work around it.

Only part of the answer. They will have to remove the ability to update much of the passcode checking software. But that will secure the phone to make the argument about back doors moot. At that point FBI will have to get a law passed to make the back door mandatory. FBI has admitted that is the correct approach, not using a "writ".

40 posted on 02/29/2016 1:07:41 PM PST by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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To: DiogenesLamp

The problem is that Apple products use ARM chips and how ARM is programmed. If a developer cannot get into a locked ARM chip (not something that exists anyway) they would go through massive amounts of chips in developing products.

There isn’t an ARM chip that is lockable.


50 posted on 02/29/2016 1:15:49 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Exactly. They are tying to win a bigger share of the market by advertising to people that their phones are so secure”

So you must believe most people want secure phones that nobody including the NSA can hack into?


67 posted on 02/29/2016 1:39:06 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble mined asses overthrown,,,")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Apple overlooked the fact that their phones can be updated while locked, and can thereafter be "brute-force" opened.

No, my iPhone cannot be udated while locked. Apple might send an update to my phone, but I am the only one who can install the update. Simply unlocking my phone does not do it. (I usually delete them because I would rather billions of other phones test the update first, but that is neither here nor there).

I, not Apple, control updates. Apple might send them, I am under no obligation to accept or retain them.

109 posted on 02/29/2016 2:58:14 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: DiogenesLamp
They are tying to win a bigger share of the market by advertising to people

Gasp -- they are trying to win a bigger share of the market by selling a superior product! And they're trying to do it just to make money! How dreadful! Down with the One Percenters! Feel the Bern!!

302 posted on 03/02/2016 6:49:55 AM PST by Cyberman
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