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To: DiogenesLamp
There you are. I get so caught up in the daily business, I sometimes leave people hanging. I'm sure I'm probably not the only one.

But you were so congenial and I enjoyed discussing the whole matter with you. You actually made me see that the line between what is the right thing to do is more blurry than I first thought. And you clarified a few things I didn't have quite right.

It was your post #154. Apple put back original OS. Didn't think of that, very good.

Crap shoot. True. May be nothing of interest. But like you said, could be something very worthwhile. I should be glad they are being so thorough about it but I still don't understand why they released the apartment so quickly. It was the landlord that let the reporters in, may have had a different agenda than FBI or it was coordinated.

Good. We agree about snooping. I do have a phone, a land line. I meant I didn't have a cell phone. I also have a Magic Jack. No clue how secure that is. But I keep a folded index card over the camera lens on top. And on some sites there are quick flashes just like a camera flash. That's being paranoid but I know if they want to and have the capability, they can turn on the sound and camera. I don't lie awake worrying about it.

Apple is going to stick with the back door, guess it plays well. If paramedics had to break into my house because the door was locked, I doubt they'd traipse all the way around to the back door which happens to be locked tighter. BTW if I were able, I would tell them where I hide the spare key and how to get at it. Less damaging than breaking down the front door. I meant the foregoing as a little analogy; there isn't a real good one. If you climb through a Window, you have the wrong OS :-(. But I digress, and it's too late to still be up.

So I think unless there is further news, we are pretty much on the same page about all of it.

292 posted on 03/01/2016 11:24:39 PM PST by Aliska ("No bank is too big to fail, and no executive is too powerful to jail." HRC 1/24/16)
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To: Aliska
But you were so congenial and I enjoyed discussing the whole matter with you. You actually made me see that the line between what is the right thing to do is more blurry than I first thought. And you clarified a few things I didn't have quite right.

When I first heard of this issue, I initially sided with Apple, but then I got to noticing things that didn't make sense to me, so I started looking at the details more closely. The more I learned, the more it seemed to me that Apple was deliberately stirring up unnecessary fear.

It was your post #154. Apple put back original OS. Didn't think of that, very good.

Why wouldn't they do that? What harm could there be to other phones if Apple simply restores the original operating system? Now If I were Apple, I would certainly get it clarified with the Judge that this would be explicitly allowed in the order, because if they think the FBI can get that phone back with the special software installed, *that* is a deal breaker.

I should be glad they are being so thorough about it but I still don't understand why they released the apartment so quickly. It was the landlord that let the reporters in, may have had a different agenda than FBI or it was coordinated.

People have been pointing out a number of blunders by the FBI. I guess these are no longer the days of J.Edgar Hoover level of competency. :)

But I keep a folded index card over the camera lens on top. And on some sites there are quick flashes just like a camera flash. That's being paranoid but I know if they want to and have the capability, they can turn on the sound and camera. I don't lie awake worrying about it.

Not so paranoid. I've read accounts of people finding out their cameras and microphones were remote activated and sending audio and video somewhere. I don't even have a camera or microphone on my system. I occasionally connect them when I am using them on a project, but I keep them disconnected the rest of the time.

So I think unless there is further news, we are pretty much on the same page about all of it.

Well good. I like to believe everyone is persuadable if they simply take the time to consider the opposition position more carefully. I wish a lot of us here on Free Republic would not spend so much time talking past each other.

309 posted on 03/02/2016 7:05:32 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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