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Marco Rubio Pushed for Immigration Reform With Conservative Media
New York Times ^ | Jason Horowitz

Posted on 02/27/2016 6:33:55 PM PST by Windy City Conservative

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To: Windy City Conservative; Old Sarge; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Art in Idaho; porter_knorr; Candor7; ...

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There is a new Gang of Eight that is out to stop or attack the Republican base.

It includes Rush, along with Megyn Kelly and some FOX and NR Chamber of Commerce

Related:

NY Times Bombshell Scoop: Fox News Colluded with Rubio to Give Amnesty to Illegal Aliens
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3402846/posts

Stopping Trump: Karl Rove Leading Massive Effort Within Republican Party To Squash Trump’s Candidacy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3402856/posts

Mitt Romney about to enter GOP race
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3402838/posts

Limbaugh et al. exposed “gaslighting” audiences for illegal amnesty advocates?!?!~
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3402861/posts


41 posted on 02/28/2016 5:34:29 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Republican Wildcat

" That meets the definition of Natural Born Citizen - both by the definition of the phrase at the time it was written (the English common law definition) and also by adjudication in the courts. "

These four Supreme Court decisions defining a Natural Born Citizen proves you to be either mistaken or a liar.

42 posted on 02/28/2016 6:26:42 AM PST by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

What a snake he is....he and Cruz both slimy snakes!


43 posted on 02/28/2016 9:14:29 AM PST by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Which version of Menudo did Marco Rubio perform in?


44 posted on 02/28/2016 9:19:27 AM PST by Read Write Repeat
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To: Windy City Conservative

And to think Fox is hosting another debate in the coming days. I hope Trump brings this up.

I don’t have cable tv and it would be interesting to hear what the other news outlets are saying about this.


45 posted on 02/28/2016 9:20:48 AM PST by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!)
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To: Waryone

Will be interesting to see if Limbaugh and Levin talk about this article at all Monday and if they do, they will likely deny, deny and deny giving Rubio and the gang of 8 bill cover back in 2013-14.


46 posted on 02/28/2016 9:39:45 AM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I remember Rubio shilling for amnesty on our local conservative talk stations. The commercials went on for what seemed like months.

Marco is a fool if he thinks those incessant ads didn’t leave an indelible impression on the voters. He permanently branded himself as an amnesty pimp.


47 posted on 02/28/2016 10:40:27 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: chiller

“Sean still refuses to nail Rubio”

True. Sean is an establishment Republican pompom girl, despite his protestations to the contrary. At the end of the day, all he cares about is which jersey a politician wears. He’ll support anyone with an R velcroed to their sleeve.


48 posted on 02/28/2016 10:47:42 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Souled_Out

That site was good at selective editing of some of the cases, but here are the facts:

Here’s some information to shed light on what you stated from another thread where these issues were discussed:

If the Framers did not intend for the phrase they put into the Constitution - Natural Born Citizen - to mean what it meant at the time they wrote it, they would have written out a definition into the Constitution to redefine it. Since they did not, we can only assume it meant what the phrase meant when they wrote it out - the English common law definition - those born within the borders of the realm are naturally born citizens. There are a number of court cases where it is defined in this manner with regard to those born with far looser connections to the United States than Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, or Chester Arthur. The first case where it seems this was dealt with by a court was Lynch vs. Clarke in New York over a dispute with who could inherit property - there was a law on the books stating that only a “U.S. Citizen” could inherit property, and the presiding judge (apparently in this court the judge was called a “Vice Chancellor”) made this declaration: “Suppose a person should be elected president who was native born, but of alien parents; could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the Constitution? I think not. The position would be decisive in his favor, that by the rule of the common law, in force when the Constitution was adopted, he is a citizen...Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen. It is surprising that there has been no judicial decision upon this question.” In another case decided by the U.S. Supreme Court over the citizenship of a person born who was born to Chinese parents (it was illegal at that time for Chinese immigrants to become U.S. Citizens) it was declared that he was a natural born citizen by virtue of having been born in the United States, and Justice Field, who wrote the opinion, actually referenced the Lynch v. Clarke decision in the ruling of the Court: “After an exhaustive examination of the law, the Vice-Chancellor said that he entertained no doubt that every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever the situation of his parents, was a natural-born citizen, and added that this was the general understanding of the legal profession, and the universal impression of the public mind.” This case was In re Look Tin Sing. Another U.S. Supreme Court case was United States v. Wong Kim Ark https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649 dealing with the same issue of a child born to Chinese parents made the same ruling and also declared him to be a natural born citizen in the ruling by virtue of his right to citizenship by birth. All of those cases were in the 1800s.

There was a U.S. Supreme Court case in 1939 with the title Perkins v. Elg http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/307/325.html which dealt with the issue of a woman who was born in the U.S. to Swedish citizens who returned to Sweden with her when she was four years old. Her father was naturalized prior to this as a U.S. Citizen and held dual citizenship. She then came back to the U.S. and was admitted entry as a citizen at the age of 21. For whatever reason, her father later did away with his U.S. Citizenship status and the equivalent of the INS at the time declared she was to be deported. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled against this, finding she was a natural born U.S. Citizen by right of birth and even declared she was eligible to be President of the United States in the ruling. A past President, Chester Arthur, was born with an Irish father who was not yet naturalized as a U.S. Citizen, though his mother was born in Vermont where Arthur himself was born.

Detractors like to ignore all of information and court cases and instead rely totally on a case Minor v. Happersett - seeming to deliberately misquote the ruling - indeed, the justices specifically stated they were not making a finding of every scenario that constitutes a natural born citizen in their ruling: “The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their [p168] parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. ***For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.***” Minor v. Happersett - full text of ruling https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/88/162

Look cases up yourself and read them instead of relying on some blog post in the future.


49 posted on 02/28/2016 7:13:08 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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