Posted on 02/24/2016 7:58:33 AM PST by C19fan
Many on the right have come forward in the past few days to outline why they will never vote for Trump, and their reasons are articulate, principled, eloquent, and moving. If it wasn’t already abundantly clear from the last eight months, let me join the chorus; I will never vote for Donald Trump.
Never.
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As for promises....has he promised really anything which hasn’t already been spoken of? Moreso HOW he intends to make those happen? It just sounds to me like he’s going to follow Obama’s path in using executive power.....Frankly I don’t want another dictator, that’s not what this country is about....especially one who adheres to far too many liberal positions!
Trumps going to beat Cruz for the nomination.
FYI
Thanks for sharing, Miz Scarlett. Here, this hankie has been dipped in smelling salts -- dab your nose.
You are absolutely correct. Have you heard what Rubio did to Chris Crane, Marine, ICE agent for 13 years and heads their union? Rubio did a number on him and every ICE agent from our continental borders to the Samoas and other places.
The author won’t be alone.
Turnip might get the nomination, but many will stay home, and Hillary will be the President.
“From a policy perspective there is no difference between Trump and those two.”
How disingenuous.”
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I agree with datura.
I would add to his list: “Oh, and the Rats will strengthen our national defense, rush to defend our allies and oppose our enemies, be thrilled to lower our taxes and lessen the regulatory burdens on us and, above all, they will defend the 2nd Amendment.”
Driftdiver, “disingenuous” is a mighty kind word for how you are acting. Listen, I fully understand that you aren’t happy with Trump - he’s not my favorite guy in this race, either. I, too, have had to hold my nose when voting many times - starting in 1992 (not in ‘88, because I believed the lying SOB Bush 41, that he’d be little more than Reagan’s 3rd term). However, there were in each of those elections, just as now, a distinct choice between 2 admittedly bad - BUT VERY DISTINGUISHABLE - candidates. Bush 41 would have been better (i.e. less bad) than Clinton (and look, we not only got 8 years of him, but Her Thighness, the Bitch of Benghazi). Those who didn’t hold their nose and vote for Bush inadvertently helped give us the Clintons and every thing that they have done or will do. Ditto Dole v. Clinton, ditto Bush v. Gore, ditto Bush v. Kerry, ditto McCain v. Obama and ditto Romney v. Obama. Each and every time, the Republican has been only less bad - but measurably MUCH less bad.
IF he is nominated (which is looking increasingly likely), then we have to choose:
Trump or Hillary
or
Trump or Sanders
You cannot seriously believe that there is NO difference between those candidates. Trump may not be close to your (or my) ideal candidate, but he will VERY EASILY be a LOT better (or less worse) than either of those two. Please, get real and get over not having your man win the primaries (it happens to all of us in most elections).
I very well acquainted with the story and Chris Crane. It was Crane and his union that issued a no-confidence declaration in 2010 against the head and deputy of ICE for preventing them from carrying out what they were sworn to do.
Trump has been liberal his entire life. He’s supported liberal politicians his entire life.
But now he’s different?
Or is he simply saying what people want to hear.
The same could have been said about Reagan.
Trump has never been a pol before last June. He has NEVER had to really think about a coherent set of political beliefs, and was more interested in making deals and being popular (in NYC) than anything else.
Now that he is in the political arena, he has no choice but to think about what works, what makes the most sense. Advocating for building a wall and tossing out illegals is hardly liberal - and he’s taken a LOT of heat for it, even among Republicans (RINOs, mostly). Ditto on stopping Moslem immigration for a while. He advocates for lower taxes and less regulations - again, hardly liberal positions. His gun control position makes all but the most conservative Republicans look like gun grabbers in comparison.
If he lies about ALL of his program, there’s going to be a MASSIVE logjam in DC which will, correctly, be blamed on him by EVERYONE. He will be a lame duck from the start, and his ego simply will not allow for that.
I am, frankly, utterly sick and tired of normal pols - they have ALL lied to us, repeatedly. Trump is not of DC or the political class. He’s spent the last 50+ years (if you include his education) in the world of private business, seeing how government gums up the works and takes the choicest piece of your gains for itself. He understands negotiating for your own account - and has no tolerance for those who give away the farm to foreigners. He’s a human being, so I don’t trust him implicitly on any promise - but I do trust that he will do what is good for his ego and his image - and ONLY abiding by his promises will do that.
What a lot of folks are missing is that Presidents really don't have free rein to do whatever they want. The Affordable Care Act was deliberately crafted to be incredibly deferential to DHHS interpretations/regulations. On immigration, "prosecutorial discretion" is an inherently mushy concept that gave Obama some room to act. But even still, he was shot down on some of his immigration moves, and on Clean Air.
Trump's proposals will require new legislation, either in terms of funding or authorization, and you simply can't invent that out of thin air. So I think some people are going to be really surprised when even those promises he plans to keep are simply not going to get done the way he describes.
You’re sick and tired of the system our founding fathers created. I think that’s what you meant to say.
No, I am sick of the corrupt men and women who have made a mockery of what the Founders created. Ideally, they should be hung for treson, but I will settle for them being removed from power over us.
Just because we disagree about who should be in charge, doesn’t make me an enemy of the Republic. Your over-the-top response shows your desperation to keep the status quo. I don’t know how you can defend that
So what? He doesn’t need liberal votes to get elected.
Over the top?
I’d say over the top is throwing away the system rather the pushing to prosecute the traitors.
Because throwing it away is what is happening.
He helped raise quite a bit of money for Ronald Reagan’s campaign and was later invited to the Whitehouse. He also backed Romney and Romney being the good guy he is n’t has come out against the Donald. Mr. Trump has given money to both sides of politics. A lot of businesses do that.
From the information I’ve seen Trump has given FAR more to liberals.
I’m not for throwing away the system, just the corrupt SOBs that are running it (really perverting it) for their own interests and not those of the American People.
FYI, Trump has stated that he will have Hillary indicted and prosecuted if that’s where the evidence leads (and, he said, on the surface it looks that way). Who else in the Presidential race has said that? NO ONE!
Read Jefferson’s quote about watering the tree of liberty - it is really metaphorical, I don’t think that he wanted a literal Revolution every few years. But he clearly DID believe in turning the political power structure upside down every once in a while to preserve Liberty. THAT is what I am in favor of - not merely getting the Dems out of the White House, but also sweeping the corrupt, power-hungry GOPe out of power as much as possible.
I revere our system, as it was constructed by the Founders. That’s the country that my great grandparents and grandparents came to and prospered in, its the country that I grew up in - and the country that no longer exists (except on paper and maps) for my kids. I want my country back - and if it means that a few pin-stripped fat cats who have forgotten why they were entrusted with power get unceremoniously kicked out on their asses by the American people, then so be it.
“He also backed Romney and Romney being the good guy he is n’t has come out against the Donald.”
I hope that you meant that tongue-in-cheek...because yesterday Romney did a Harry Reid on Trump. He accused him of having something to hide in his tax returns...just like he, himself was attacked by that scum Reid in 2012.
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