Posted on 02/24/2016 7:17:27 AM PST by TurkeyLurkey
Any argument can be reduced to ridiculous extremes that misrepresent the position being taken. As an evangelical that has been watching these fights for over half a century, I can tell you that Trump is only successful among evangelicals today because so many evangelicals have drifted away from their very conservative roots.
The OP is right. Morality had been a regular feature of the political conversation, because Christians by and large believed that morally good leaders were essential to the nation’s well-being. Conservatism itself had been an embodiment of essential moral commitments, the work ethic, respect for private property, the sanctity of God-given life, the right of conscience and freedom to worship, the sanity and beauty of the natural family, etc.
So no, we anti-Trump evangelicals are not trying to cast ourselves as “all seeing.” Surely that would be blasphemy, as only God is all wise. But we do come from a place where men like Trump would be the last sort of person we would choose to put in authority over our lives. It’s not about trying to *be* God. It’s about trying to *please* God. God gives grace to the humble, but he resists the proud.
Peace,
SR Surely that would be blasphemy, as only God is all wise. But we do come from a place where men like Trump would be the last sort of person we would choose to put in authority over our lives. It
Nobody had problems with Mittens being a Mormon?
Thanks for #32
Truth speaks volumes to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear (which also come from our Sovereign God).
People can have a change of heart at any age, if God gets a hold on them. But I question the depth of Trump’s conversion based on his own words. He says that he changed his mind about abortion after his friends who were considering abortion changed their minds and the kid turned out to be a “superstar”. When asked whether he would still have changed his mind about abortion if the kid turned out to be a “loser”, he said probably not. So his position on abortion doesn’t appear to be based on the value of every innocent life, but based on the fact that this one kid turned out to be a “superstar”. So while I am glad he seems to have moved in the pro-life direction, I question how strongly he will actually fight for that principle. I suspect he will be willing to make deals on that subject if he thinks he can get something more important to him personally.
Why would God hand pick characters like Samson, David, and his son Solomon to be His representatives?
Because that’s all he had to work with that could handle the job. Trump is all WE have....who can break up the Corrupt Bastards Club in DC.
We have a BINGO.
Good points. At one point he made it sound like he was unaware how awful abortion is. I wonder what the heck he thought abortion was all the years before?
It is not long until every knee shall bow and every mouth declare the Jesus Christ is Lord!
P.S. And today he gave an address at Regents University.....one of the belt loops on the Bible Belt.
Maranatha!
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I did.
God works all things after the counsel of his own will, and not just at "critical points."
But we will be called to give an account for choosing the blessing: Cruz rather than the curse: Trump.
Malachi 2:2
If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the Lord of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.
No, God could have picked any number of others. His plans are not always obvious to us. God used the pagan king of Babylon to punish His people Israel. That doesn’t mean God’s people would be right to voluntarily choose pagan Nebuchadnezzar as their king. Nor should Christians take Philistine girlfriends like Samson, or commit adultery like David, or drift into idolatry like Solomon.
God demonstrates His own power by taking flawed people and using them for His purposes. But that gives us no justification to endorse those flaws, or to overlook them when making choices that affect the well-being of our families and our nation. In America, we get to choose. That’s our responsibility. That means we uniquely own the consequences for a poor choice. Trump is a poor choice, and choosing him over better men will come back to haunt us.
Peace,
SR
God wouldn’t use Trump..... Can you say Obama?
Glenn is that you?
I’ll stick with my Samson over some false prophet of Dominionism.
Cruz is Southern Baptist. No evidence has ever been presented to suggest he is a dominionist. I live next door to real dominionists. They are nothing like the Southern Baptists.
Peace,
SR
God wouldn’t use Trump..... Can you say Obama?
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Albert Einstein once said about Quantum Mechanics, “God does not play dice!”, to which, IIRC, Fermi responded, “Don’t try to tell God what he can do!”
Telling God what He can and cannot do has not future.
Msgr. Charles Pope discussed this today. The main point is humility.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3401222/posts
Well, you are exactly correct, but he was raised Dominionist.
“Dominion theology is predicated upon three basic beliefs: 1) Satan usurped man’s dominion over the earth through the temptation of Adam and Eve; 2) The Church is God’s instrument to take dominion back from Satan; 3) Jesus cannot or will not return until the Church has taken dominion by gaining control of the earth’s governmental and social institutions.”
Take a look at this video. Introduction of Rafael Cruz at about 1:02. Rafael Cruz clearly states that he has “shared the message of Dominion” around the world. At 1:34 he talks about God giving you material blessings so that you have the power to establish God’s Kingdom on Earth. This it the Prosperity Gospel on steroids. Rafael Cruz explains it all, very convincingly, so that, if it were possible, even the elect would be deceived.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy074QLV2D8
Hebrews 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
Our hope should not be in Trump or Cruz but in Jesus.
Psalm 37:4
Delight thyself also in the Lord: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.
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