America Under A Strong Delusion

The Word on Politics ^ | 2/19/16 | Andy Woods

[Harpotoo]

So if Trump wins it’s because God wants him to? Man that’s what the Cruzers are saying too.

[JSDude1]

No matter how much they discourage you..keep it up,Mathis blog post is right on, IMO, friend.

[JSDude1]

Sorry, my iPhone likes to change what I. type.

[DoughtyOne]

I’m not sure what your “abort now” comment was meant to convey.

I don’t see Trump as supporting abortion. I don’t. I support him.

Humanity needed Jesus. He didn’t come to rescue only the Jews. He came to rescue humanity. I don’t believe humanity changed in the generation just prior to Jesus appearance.

He didn’t come to rescue the Jews from Roman occupation, so I can’t address His appearance for that.

It was God’s time to send His Son here. All things take place in His time.

Trump comes at a time of serious decline in the U. S. Trump is focused on reversing that decline. Jesus was not focused on reversing Israel’s plight at all.

He was here to purchase the souls of men who would accept him as their personal savior.

Trump is here to turn the nation around. He is not interested in people accepting him as their personal savior. He has asked folks to allow him to do good things for the nation.

As for the Law, Jesus came to fulfill the law, or as you put it to complete it.

Trump has not come to fulfill the law. He is not here to complete it. He is here to comply with it.

I expect him to. I expect that to increase it’s stature in an age where Republicans and Democrats alike ignore it.

If Trump does as I suspect and follows the Constitution, he’ll be one of the few in recent decades.

[Blackirish]

What’s hard for posters like me to understand is why would any conservative even like Trump. I guess folks want the china shop torn down so bad they don’t care who bull is, what he says or what he’s done in past.

[Albion Wilde]

America has been under judgement since 1948, when the Supreme Court elevated the rights of atheists onto the same level as the Nature’s God of our Constitution. This guy is a little late to the revelation party.

[INVAR]

I guess folks want the china shop torn down so bad they don’t care who bull is, what he says or what he’s done in past.

That statement is worth it's weight in gold, silver and platinum!

While certainly all opus want to see the GOP establishment and Obama's dictatorship razed to the ground - most simply do not care who it is they think will be able to do it.It conveys what I think is the truth of so many who ascribe to Trump - all their hopes and dreams, REGARDLESS of the fact he has recently stated he will work with Pelosi and Reid, support Planned Parenthood and demand a boycott of Apple for refusing to create a backdoor for all it's encryption to the FBI.

We saw this same phenomena with Obama back in 2008 among the Left - and no matter what facts or concerns people raised about him, he was the messiah that was going to make the sea levels go down. Now we see the same exact phenomena happening for Trump among those who at one time we assumed were on 'our side' of the ideological aisle.

While I might initially consider that Trump is a universe of improvement over the dictatorship of Obama, I have no hard facts or specifics outside of what he says at campaign stumps that he will do anything he says. His actual record of support for things is that of a typical New York Democrat - yet his rabid followers say he is the most Conservative person out there.

You cannot reason with a mob mentality. And the biblical application of God giving a people over to their strong delusions to believe lies, is also an historical accuracy.

[don-o]

But, it can’t happen here. /s

This is why a classical education is so important. I cannot claim to have had one. But, I have tried to read history and philosophy and the Bible record for context of what I see going on around me.

I am reminded of my father, when someone would greet him with, “Whadayaknow, Bob?”

He replied, “I don’t know much, but I suspect a lot.”

[Outership]

Great article! This man gets it.

[Ezekiel]

America is under a deluding influence.

Yes indeed... and the premise of this article is just that.

America is finally under the judgment of God

Is contrary to

God withdrawing his hand from America

Withdrawing? NO! It's the exact opposite.

The absurdity of this current election cycle shouts Divine orchestration. Because really, you can't make this stuff up. It's all too bizarre and flipped over upside down.

What this is IS a rectification process of the Highest order. Think of the planning that sent Joseph to Egypt (to provide for a great deliverance), or the stage that was set for the Purim narrative (to provide for a great deliverance).

The principle is that God provides the "cure before the disease". He establishes the solution before the problem.

Five days before the Inauguration of Desolation, He gave us a plane sign of His providence and plans for America's ultimate deliverance from the bondage of Pharaoh and "Egypt" (aka the house of bondage - it's a spiritual condition, the Obama oppression of the physical world being its material parable). The level of symbolism crushes any claims of "coincidence" into rubble.

Nothing like an "accident" to show that nothing is by accident. How many details in that Miracle on the Hudson?

US Airways Jet crashes in Hudson River in NYC

Numbers 33:3. And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the next day after the Passover the children of Israel went out with a high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians:

US Airways flight 1549, flown by an experienced glider pilot with particular knowledge of safety procedures and effective egress, takes a double bird strike, shutting down two of two engines, which causes a chain of events that sets up the vision.

Right in the midst of the Hudson River - in the heart of Diaspora central
An aircraft lands on the water.
Of course that shouldn't be; it's not a sea plane. But there it was, floating along in broad daylight in an open place especially suited to record the event and provide for quick rescue.
In the middle of winter in icy waters
Passengers are lifted up on eagles' wings, standing on the river on dry land (the wings)
On the "15th day of the first month" (word play on the Hebrew and Western calendar systems)
No souls lost.

What's a "passenger"? One who goes (passes) across or beyond. Same root as the word "Hebrew". The Hebrew word translated as "passengers" (KJV) has the same spelling as "Hebrews": ayin, bet, resh, yud, mem. Not that hard to look up and see it in the verses, such as

Genesis 40:15
Ezekiel 39:14

THAT day's Torah readings (15 January 2009) foretell of the redemption, the rise of the pharaoh who "knew not Joseph", and what pharaoh was going to do.

Exodus 1:1-17;3:16-4:17

From the same link:

Daily Thought

Self Oppression

A tyrant can steal everything from you but your knowledge of who you are. That only you can give away.
When someone else imprisons or enslaves you, you still know who you are -- even if you are prevented from expressing it.
But when you make your goal in life to be someone you are not, or to be part of a people that are not your own, that is the ultimate surrender. There is no greater captivity, for your essence and being have been locked away in a dark cell.
It is an oppression of the worst sort, but also the easiest to escape. After all, you admitted yourself into this place. So who is preventing you from signing out?

The worthless shepherds can't identify America in Bible prophecy. If they can't see an entire flock in front of their faces, how will they find and rescue the one that gets lost?

"Joseph is still alive, and he is governor [mashal, a literal PARABLE] over all the land of Egypt."

God withdrawing his hand from America?

Only in the world of delusion, where everything is by chance or lots.

Haman throws lots – called “purim.”

Why?

It is part of Amalekite ideology that everything is a random occurrence – everything happens by chance. There is no God running the show. It’s the ultimate denial of reality.
So this holiday which is called Purim – “Chance” – comes to illustrate that, in fact, nothing happens by chance. From the point that Haman throws the lots – flips the dice, so to speak ? everything begins to flip on him.

http://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48938517.html

Exodus 19

3. And Moses went up to God, and the Lord called to him from the mountain, saying, Thus shall you say to the house of Jacob, and tell the people of Israel:
4. You have seen what I did to the Egyptians, and how I carried you on eagles' wings, and brought you to myself:
5. Now therefore, if you will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then you shall be my own treasure among all peoples; for all the earth is mine:
6. And you shall be to me a kingdom of priests, and a holy nation; These are the words which you shall speak to the people of Israel:

Joseph is still alive. Moses carried out his bones (essence, substance, foundation, plot outline of a story).

The truth of the matter is that America is finally under the judgment of God. Our nation has been given over to what it wants. America is under a deluding influence. Such a deleterious condition cannot be remedied with better and more aggressive public policy arguments. The Scripture teaches that people can go so far in their sin that God finally removes His hand of restraint upon them and finally gives them over to what they want to do.

Ezekiel 37

3. And he said to me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord God, you know:

11. Then he said to me, son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel; behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost; we are clean cut off:

[MIA_eccl1212]

The principle is that God provides the “cure before the disease”. He establishes the solution before the problem.

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A++

[Zionist Conspirator]

And here come the Holy Rollers.

What a sentiment to find on Free Republic. So now "conservatives" don't like "holy rollers."

[Zionist Conspirator]

Scripture "quotin" makes you uneasy, does it? Atheist or Jew?

Well, that was a stupid thing to say. I don't suppose you're aware that many Jews support Cruz (who is pro-Israel) and is opposed by some "nationalists" and "palaeoconservatives" for precisely that reason?

Can you quote the actual Scripture in its original language? Didn't think so.

[INVAR]

Same sentiment I saw exponentially this past weekend.

The abject hostility I’m reading towards Christians showing up here on FR is disconcerting, but not unexpected on a people who look at elections as our hand in bringing salvation.

[BlueDragon]

While certainly all opus want to see...

I assume you meant to say "all of us" instead of "all opus".

The typo could be seen to otherwise fit the article's subject matter though, sadly enough...a giant cultural opus playing out in what appears from human perspective to be slow-motion...

BTTT for all the rest of your observations.

[INVAR]

I hate predictive text. It’s too bad this browser automatically employs is without recourse.

Yes. I meant to type ‘all of us’.

The pattern is strikingly familiar to what we saw with Obama in 2008. Only now it’s transposed itself to Trump.

Does not lend itself to maintaining a Republic, which we have already lost anyway.

[BlueDragon]

The pattern is strikingly familiar to what we saw with Obama in 2008. Only now it's transposed itself to Trump.

Does not lend itself to maintaining a Republic, which we have already lost anyway.

How much longer? Where are we at? The year 2016.

Will this nation endure beyond 2050 without being fully transformed into something unrecognizable, if not getting itself destroyed through wars either sought for, or sent?

Chances for that don't look good to me at all right about now ---though this country may yet be used as instrument of judgement against other nations, even in the midst of being on the receiving for some of our own. The Lord knows (they tell Him everyday) that they want to be the ones to deal out judgement to "the Great Satan"...

Among all the rest of the developments near to this nation's founding, was included being an instrument of justice, virtually ending the long reign of Barbary pirates by this (then young) nation's actions. After founding of the U.S., claims of those who called themselves kings was greatly diminished also, of course. How many kings are there nowadays? Not many, those that remain are generally toothless in comparison to centuries past, while before they were just about everywhere.

And what did Zippy and Her ArfArf just do but help bomb Qaddafi out of power. Not that he was king, just a dictator. But what could have been expected to rise up in Qaddafi's place? Hastening his overthrow cleared the way for--- what? They're still fighting it out there in Libya, with no real end in sight. That's just one place, one country, and a small one compared to many others. Yet in the aftermath Europe began to be flooded with gushing torrents of refugees who bring their own natures, and thus the problems of those natures, with them.

The flow from there, the pressure behind it has slackened only slightly while yet another yet larger gushing torrent opened up from near to where there's always been pressure of Islamic flow into European realms.

The Turk is offspring of a bastard child. And now they tell us we must siphon that same flow to our own shores even more than we have been steadily increasing (for the last few decades) that flow of persons who bring alien cultures along with themselves --- the nature of which is at places from within their religion significantly antithetical, even hostile to the worldviews which led to the formation of the United States and it's Constitution, in the first place.

What to do in the meantime though? That is a question. Convert the immigrants? That seems logical enough, to try ---but while realizing only few would converted while the big fat juicy target on ones' own back just kept getting bigger and bigger the more success one would have.

The day-to-day, earthly cash pay for that job is lousy too. There are no corner offices, no sexy secretaries, no spare dollars and time for say; bass fishing, unless taking Muslims fishing while gently preaching to them, and coaxing them along towards greater understanding could be a way to get the job done, doing so on one's own dime. How big of a bass boat do ya' got though? How big can it be? Much bigger than normal-sized wouldn't fit behind a pick-up truck. (And have you priced those things recently?)

It may be the devil, it may be the Lord, but; you're going to have to serve somebody.

How'd that other Dylan tune go?

There must be some way out of here
Said the joker to the thief
There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief
Businessmen, they drink my wine
Plowmen dig my earth
None of them along the line know what any of it is worth

No reason to get excited,the thief, he kindly spoke
There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke
But you and I, we've been through that, and this is not our fate
So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late

All along the watchtower, princes kept the view
While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too

Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl
Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl

[subterfuge]

Okay. Atheist it is...

[amorphous]

What this is IS a rectification process of the Highest order.

+10

[Borges]

So ZC is an atheist! The game is up sir!