Cruz Campaign Apologizes to Marco Rubio for Spreading False Bible Story

Breitbart ^ | 2/22/2016 | Charlie Spiering

[lordsofthejungle]

With this kind of moral relativism coming from the electorate it’s no wonder this country is circling the drain.

[HLPhat]

> Tyler would definitely check,

Would or Should?

I've seen no EVIDENCE that he did; so maybe he should have but did not - and that's why he got fired. 

FACT:  The Pen State (BTW that's Donald Trump's alma mater isn't it?) student "journalists" posted the speculative question:

"Wish we knew what book he was reading (perhaps Ted Cruz's A Time for Truth?) Comment below and take a guess at what you think he was reading"

http://www.thedp.com/blog/dpolitics/2016/02/marco-rubio-encounters-cruz-campaign-in-hampton-inn

FACT: The entire tenor of the question changes based upon the combination of a single consonant (was it "G" or "N"?) - and the title of the book (was it the Bible or Ted Cruz's book?).

FACT: Both of those elements were in flux (was that deliberate or inocent?) throughout the process of revelation.

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Sunday, Feb. 21, afternoon: While driving back to Philadelphia, we begin receiving comments on Twitter and the post itself about the contents of the video. Several people question whether Rubio said "not" or "got" before "many answers in there", referring to the book. Later, some suggest maybe he is saying "every answer's in there." We examine the video, breaking down the audio to the very syllable at the beginning of the sentence. We continued to believe we heard an "N" sound.

http://www.thedp.com/article/2016/02/from-the-editor-timeline-of-cruz-rubio-reporting

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The student(s) who posted the false caption say they continue to believe they heard (wanted to hear?) an "N".

FACT: Tyler tweetpeated the sensational question that has now blown up in the face of the Pen Students and Cruz campaign.

A Lawyer like Cruz has the common sense to understand what I learned growing up in a LEO family: Nobody is smart enough to lie.

The risk/benefit analysis simply doesn't work out for the kind of conspiracy you're alleging.  What's in if for Cruz - and would anybody even believe Rubio would denigrate the Bible - RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIS KID in the first place?  I wouldn't buy that.

Occam's Razor V.S. Elaborate Consiriacy theory says: Tyler simply didn't think before tweeting (again?) -- and so...

FACT: No more Tyler.

 

Meanwhile -- I wonder if the Generaton XBox bloggers at Pen State (in between exposes on Sexting) are proud or remorseful of the effects rendered by their crappy craftsmanship?

If they couldn't tell G from N - then THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE CAPTIONED THE THING IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Ain't technology great?

[HLPhat]

>>Trump, who at least admits he is a Presbyterian ?

But who may or may not be able to recall ever asking, or needing to ask, to be forgiven... for anything.

http://www.google.com/#q=Trump+forgiveness

Hmm. SMH.

[HLPhat]

>>it's no wonder this country is circling the drain.

Ps 37:8-9

8 Refrain from anger and turn from wrath;
do not fret -- it leads only to evil.
9 For evil men will be cut off,
but those who hope in the Lord will inherit the land.
NIV

 

c'mon - sing along with Jack...

[Anger Management - I Feel Pretty (uncaptioned)]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LZ35Ar3r2k

[Reverend Wright]

if Collins had told the Penn that their caption was wrong, rather than being cute, none of this would have happened

[HLPhat]

>>if Collins had told the Penn that their caption was wrong,

True, but up until 2am preceding his tweet, the caption could’ve been reasonably perceived as being directed at Ted Cruz’s book.

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Cruz communications director Rick Tyler promoted the Daily Pennsylvanian post on his Twitter and Facebook accounts on Sunday morning. Despite the fact that the Cruz campaign had apparently “confirmed that the book in question was a Bible” around 2 a.m., Tyler still posted the story with this comment: “Watch Marco Rubio’s awkward remark about the book a Cruz staffer was reading in the hotel lobby. What book was it?”
http://opinion.injo.com/2016/02/253363-cruz-campaign-spent-sunday-questioning-whether-rubio-likes-bible/

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The allegation is that Collins knew.

But the fact is that no person has been yet identified as having told him; and that missing link leaves the open question of what Collins knew at the time he tweetpeated.

Also if Collins knew it was the Bible - why not say so instead of just repeating the baited question?

Speculation isn’t evidence. This member of the jury is still not convinced.

[HLPhat]

>>rather than being cute,

Yep. No disagreement there.

Personally I’m not seeing any benefits to this whole real-time tweet angle having been injected into the political process.

It’s mirrored here on FR - too much cuteness and a dearth of substantive CONSERVATIVE analysis.

[af_vet_1981]

With this kind of moral relativism coming from the electorate it’s no wonder this country is circling the drain.

What is the moral difference that troubles you ? I would have thought the tale of the videos would have.

[af_vet_1981]

But who may or may not be able to recall ever asking, or needing to ask, to be forgiven... for anything.

I view Donald Trump as more Publican than Puritan. How about you ?What denomination or sect do you assemble with ? Do you confess your sins, and if so, how and how frequently ? If not, why not ?

Does a public apology without making amends constitute a confession ?

[HLPhat]

>>I view Donald Trump as more Publican than Puritan. How about you ?

The more I view him the more enigmatic he becomes.

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“Trump declared, “I go to communion and that’s asking forgiveness, you know, it’s a form of asking forgiveness.” During the interview the current GOP frontrunner stressed that he “likes to work where he doesn’t have to ask forgiveness.”
http://www.christianpost.com/news/trump-why-do-i-have-to-repent-or-ask-for-forgiveness-if-i-am-not-making-mistakes-video-141856/

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What he said about communion I can agree with - recognizing the need for forgiveness through the Grace of Christ’s sacrifice is consistent with biblical Christian doctrine.

But then he muddies that with what he says about working where he doesn’t have to be forgiven.

He doesn’t seem to articulate the separation that exists between the Creator and ourselves due to our fallen nature - or the necessity of repentance for membership in the forgiven body of Christ.

I was raised in the LCMS. I currently assemble with EFCA, a bible teaching denomination of the body of Christ.

There are no liturgical confessions or creeds recited - but there is a statement of faith that communicants are advised to understand before partaking.

I confess my sins with various frequency as required. Sometimes in discussion with my wife or others, often in the context of studying the Word - and sometimes just between me and God.

[af_vet_1981]

Thank you for your straight forward reply. But then he muddies that with what he says about working where he doesn’t have to be forgiven.

I thought about that along the lines of the one who repented and made a full and complete confession that included damning and ugly sins. Such a one wants to never have to repeat that again, especially with so many witnesses watching us from heaven. Perhaps he does not want to commit sins like that again and have to confess them. I do know we have a Great King and we will all stand in judgment before Him.

[HLPhat]

>>Perhaps he does not want to commit sins like that again

Maybe, but I get the impression it’s more of a “I like to be the boss because the boss doesn’t have to be forgiven” kind of thing.

For the last 8 years folks have been rightfully questioning the morality of the current POTUS - and now all of a sudden morality doesn’t matter because “we’re electing a president not a pope”.

SMH, it’s crazy.

[Georgia Girl 2]

Dirty trix has a way of ending up in apology. :-)

[lordsofthejungle]

An unnecessary explanation of the obvious will not remove your contempt for Cruz’s religiosity or knock you off of the Trump bandwagon,,, I’ll let you return to your kool aid.

[lordsofthejungle]

True, though we cannot merely be spectators and sit idly by as the mob chooses the middle road with Trump, the middle road is the idle road.

[HLPhat]

>>True, though we cannot merely be spectators and sit idly by as the mob chooses the middle road with Trump

Yep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer

I think it's not even so much that the mob is choosing the middle road with Trump - but that Trump is resonating with the collective nature of what always lurks just beyond the fragile moral lattice that keeps the human cultural serpent from devouring itself, again.

In a Christian culture that latice is manifested by the body of Christ: individuals repentantly operating together within the grace of forgiveness, empowered by His Spirit, and encouraged by one another to live within the healthy moral constraints He prescribed for our benefit. 

Can't say I've seen anything that works better; but we're in a place in our history where the liturgical cart has to catch up with, and reform around, the explosive bubble of knowledge that is preceding and outpacing it.

Think about how human culture convulsed in the context of Galileo's day...

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/galileo-is-convicted-of-heresy

...which was a tiny bubble of expansion compared to what we've experienced/survived in the past century!

Through it all the Creator's laws remain for our guidance.  

Do we worship and obey Him --  Or -- do we worship the bobbles (and stars) our egos manage to concoct with increased understanding of those laws... invoking the serpent's appetite in the process?

RTFM!  As someone was recently captioned saying: [WE] "Got a good book there,all the answers are in there."

[lordsofthejungle]

Well said, and I’ve often thought the path of this culture and its government is unavoidable. Not just because an evolving world forces structural changes but also that our collective nature, our inherent human frailties, lead us down the same paths as our predecessors in Europe. There will be hardships to deal with but being well grounded spiritually will certainly help to take the sting out of it.

[HLPhat]

>>What has happened to Cruz and his campaign?

Ask the Generation XBox frat punks at PENN (isn't that Donald Trump's alma-mater BTW?) who manufactured this "confrontation" and just buried their retraction in the sports section.

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Letter from the President | Retracting an erroneous post

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By COLIN HENDERSON ãƒ» 02/23/16 11:41pm

...round 2 a.m. on Sunday, we discovered from another Cruz staffer that the book in question in the video was the Bible, and we updated the post accordingly. But this significantly changed the meaning of Rubio's words as originally transcribed, as it now purported to show Rubio pointing to the Bible and saying "not a lot of answers in there." Later, the accuracy of that transcription was brought into question due to the unclear audio; upon returning to Philadelphia Sunday evening, we updated the post to reflect uncertainty over what was said...

But Cruz Communications Director Rick Tyler had shared the original post on Twitter and Facebook earlier Sunday.

http://www.thedp.com/article/2016/02/letter-from-the-president-marco-rubio-video

[HLPhat]

>>The people that taped it and posted it with the transcription are standing by it. *shrugging*

They’ve retracted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3400199/posts?page=498#498

[HLPhat]

>>the path of this culture and its government is unavoidable

Unavoidable, predictable... and therefore - profitable (at least for those whose moral framework [or lack thereof] does not render a moral dilema when the notion of gaming the systemic corruption is considered).

What would Professor Teufelsdrockh think about Donald Trump’s “new” clothes?
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/20585