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To: odawg

Try to keep it straignt Odawg. Arthur, born before the 14th Amendment, in Vermont, was born an alien. Read the clarification in Minor v. Happersett. Before the 14th Amendment, which was the context for the plaintiff Virginia Minor, federal law only defined natural born citizens. Everyone else was an alien or foreigner because until the 14th Amendment, we had no “uniform rule for naturalization”. Freed slaves such as Dred Scott had citizen’s rights in one state but not every state.

Chester Arthur could have, at twenty six, claimed naturalized citizenship after passage of the 14th Amendment. If he did, I haven’t heard that documentation was discovered. He would have burned his personal records because having been naturalized would have shown his presidency to be illegal. He was never a constitutional president.

Any mention by Obama allies about his birth certificate were part of the smoke screen. Obama was a “made man”. The one Republican who asked the question publicly, and open letter the The White House, Nathan Deal, had his income tax files opened and was answered by a subpoena from the House Ethics committee. With Obama and his allies controlling the executive branch, the IRS has the power to bankrupt anyone. They can bring charge after charge, valid or not, until the object of their destruction has nothing left with which to fight, or survive. That is a despotism, and the potential is here.

Republicans have been fully complicit. John McCain, even if we accept the Vattel’s extension of natural born citizenship to include military citizens, had his eligibility questioned in Congress and in the Courts. Obama himself, with his campaign co-chair Clair McCaskill, sponsored Senate Bill 2678, the “Foreign Born Children of Military Citizen’s Natural Born Citizen Act”. You may think it was obvious that such children were natural born, but Obama and McCaskill, and Leahy and Clinton and Menendez obviously didn’t. The act failed to pass out the Judiciary Committee. So two months later, in April 2008, McCaskill came back with Senate Resolution 511, with it’s legal arguments provided, in large part, by Larry Tribe. Yes, the Roberts, Obama, and Cruz Larry Tribe. “A Resolution that Senator John S. McCain is a Natural Born Citizen Resolution”. These are facts. Someone who really understands the strategic objectives of these manipulations may provide the background some day. Too bad M. Stanton Evans has passed away.


106 posted on 02/21/2016 4:05:19 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding

I’m getting tired of this.

Arthur evidently scammed the entire country. Some historians now claim that he lied about everything, about his father,etc. My point is that the reason he lied was to get around the natural born clause of the Constitution. He had to lie, or he would have been declared ineligible. They almost caught him at it.

We may have to assume he never was a citizen of this country. I don’t know. That is not my point.

My point is that he lied his way in; he did not parade his record, or his father’s record, before the public, they would not have stood for it.


109 posted on 02/21/2016 4:17:23 PM PST by odawg
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