Posted on 02/21/2016 10:58:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Wouldn’t mind seeing that myself. West was out front as fast as any when first elected into office. He was speaking about Communism, socialism and how it has been inserted into the American system. Since that time, he has never subsided in his speech. A man of stature, military, and patriotism. Trump should take a close look at this capable man and ask for his help in the new administration.
I think Patton won at Bastogne.
Are We The People (you know, the ones that love our country) the Screaming Eagles?
Casuse a screaming we are.
Cruz laughed it off too. Now the anchor baby gets his turn.
It was not known at the time:
“Hinman alleged that Arthur was born in Ireland or Canada as a British subject. It was bunk. It’s been definitively established that Chester Arthur was born in Vermont. But Hinman turns out to be correct anyway since Chester Arthur was a British citizen/subject by virtue of his father not having naturalized as a United States citizen until Chester Arthur was almost 14 years old.”
Try to keep it straignt Odawg. Arthur, born before the 14th Amendment, in Vermont, was born an alien. Read the clarification in Minor v. Happersett. Before the 14th Amendment, which was the context for the plaintiff Virginia Minor, federal law only defined natural born citizens. Everyone else was an alien or foreigner because until the 14th Amendment, we had no “uniform rule for naturalization”. Freed slaves such as Dred Scott had citizen’s rights in one state but not every state.
Chester Arthur could have, at twenty six, claimed naturalized citizenship after passage of the 14th Amendment. If he did, I haven’t heard that documentation was discovered. He would have burned his personal records because having been naturalized would have shown his presidency to be illegal. He was never a constitutional president.
Any mention by Obama allies about his birth certificate were part of the smoke screen. Obama was a “made man”. The one Republican who asked the question publicly, and open letter the The White House, Nathan Deal, had his income tax files opened and was answered by a subpoena from the House Ethics committee. With Obama and his allies controlling the executive branch, the IRS has the power to bankrupt anyone. They can bring charge after charge, valid or not, until the object of their destruction has nothing left with which to fight, or survive. That is a despotism, and the potential is here.
Republicans have been fully complicit. John McCain, even if we accept the Vattel’s extension of natural born citizenship to include military citizens, had his eligibility questioned in Congress and in the Courts. Obama himself, with his campaign co-chair Clair McCaskill, sponsored Senate Bill 2678, the “Foreign Born Children of Military Citizen’s Natural Born Citizen Act”. You may think it was obvious that such children were natural born, but Obama and McCaskill, and Leahy and Clinton and Menendez obviously didn’t. The act failed to pass out the Judiciary Committee. So two months later, in April 2008, McCaskill came back with Senate Resolution 511, with it’s legal arguments provided, in large part, by Larry Tribe. Yes, the Roberts, Obama, and Cruz Larry Tribe. “A Resolution that Senator John S. McCain is a Natural Born Citizen Resolution”. These are facts. Someone who really understands the strategic objectives of these manipulations may provide the background some day. Too bad M. Stanton Evans has passed away.
“By calling them Cuban citizens, he made the statement as a slur which also slurred every first generation American of naturalized citizens while he was at it.”
Rubio’s parents were citizens of Cuba when he was born. How is that a slur?
“I know odawg you didn’t really mean it as a slur right? Right?”
Again, how can it be a slur? They were Cuban citizens, citizens of Cuba, when Rubio was born.
” Odawg could have continued to make his NBC argument, Constitutional expert that he is, without insulting first generation Americans like myself, but he appears to enjoy being slimy.”
How did I insult first generation Americans of naturalized citizens? Trump has a son of a naturalized citizen. It is okay.
Rubio’s parents were not naturalized until after he was born.
I’m getting tired of this.
Arthur evidently scammed the entire country. Some historians now claim that he lied about everything, about his father,etc. My point is that the reason he lied was to get around the natural born clause of the Constitution. He had to lie, or he would have been declared ineligible. They almost caught him at it.
We may have to assume he never was a citizen of this country. I don’t know. That is not my point.
My point is that he lied his way in; he did not parade his record, or his father’s record, before the public, they would not have stood for it.
“Obama has not claimed to be a natural born citizen. In fact, he told the world, on his web site, that he was “born a subject of the British Commonwealth—
I didn’t know that. I mean, I never did think he was eligible.
I have to say, it is uncomfortable seeing my name against his.
I don’t want to go back and check, but I did in fact call Rubio’s parents Cuban citizens, because that is what they were when he was born. I never denied it.
I hereby officially own it, that I did in fact call Rubio’s parents Cuban citizens when he was born.
It does not matter if they came here legally. They were not citizens at the time of Rubio’s birth. They were Cuban citizens. If an American moved to Cuba, he would be an American citizen until he was naturalized into Cuban citizenship.
If you, as a first generation American, is offended at that, you need to get a life. I do not care. Not one bit. Get over it. Find something else to get offended over. I am not going to change what I believe because it upsets you.
If you want to vote for the little girlie man, vote for him.
The anchor baby, Rubio. His Cuban parents became citizens after he was born. That's not an insult...you'll know it when it happens.
And the other one, the Cubanadian, says he didn't even know he was a Canadian until he was in High School. Back to the present, he renounces his Canadian citizenship less than two years ago. He forgot to tell the Texas voters he was a Canadian.
If he's a citizen at all, it's by statute, which makes him naturalized. If his mother didn't follow through with the paperwork to make him a US citizen, he may be a citizen of nowhere.
Nobody's seen the paperwork....same as Obama.
I’m really not trying to pick a fight here, but please re-read my post. I stated that the Constitution gives Congress the authority to DEFINE citizenship as well as immigration requirements. Congress was not acting outside its authority when the original terms were defined in the 1790’s. An act which, by the way, Madison revoked 20 years later. Subsequently and for many reasons prior to the enactment of the 14th Amendment, Congress tinkered with the definition until after the Civil when Congress past a more ‘modern’ definition around 1870. This definition included the age requirement for a mother to pass on citizenship to her offspring. Other modifications have been passed at various times to bring us to our current understand of ‘natural born’ versus ‘naturalized’ citizens. And to the best of my knowledge, the Supreme Court has never ruled on this subject. This has been recently confirmed by the late Justice Scalia in his comments regarding the validity Obama’s ability to have his US citizenship transferred to him from his underage mother. If you know different, please educate me.
“I stated that the Constitution gives Congress the authority to DEFINE citizenship as well as immigration requirements.”
No, the Constitution gives Congress the authority to set naturalization standards for citizenship.
It does NOT give Congress the authority to redefine anything at all. It is not in there. If that were the case, Congress could redefine anything it chose, such as the definition of the word “infringe”.
As Justice Scalia pointed out, the Constitution is NOT a living document.
Agreed. You do not need to be a judge or attorney to resolve this, or many things involving our nation’s formation or its formative documents.
natural - according to the laws of nature, occurs in nature, not man made
born - having certain characteristics at the time of birth
citizen - member of a nation
2 Cuban citizens cannot create a natural born citizen of the US.
Rubio is a US citizen by statue (man made law, not natural law); therefore, he is ineligible to be President.
Little Marco. blah, blah, blah
“Obama is ineligible to be president.”
Well duh.
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