I'd never call the FRumpsters stupid.
(Misguided perhaps, but I know they all love their country.
(McMahon insulting his sold-out venue of WWE fans, priceless.)
Posted on 02/20/2016 8:52:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Now Donald Trump is questioning Marco Rubio' eligibility for the presidency.
In a tweet Saturday, Trump shared a video of what appears to be an attorney making a bizarre case that not only Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who was born in Canada, but Rubio, whose parents immigranted from Cuba, is not eligible to become president.
In the tweet to his 6.3 million followers, Trump quoted a message sent to him by another Twitter user, who at the time appeared to have five followers: "@realDonaldTrump Mr. Trump...BOTH Cruz AND Rubio are ineligible to be POTUS! It's a SLAM DUNK CASE!! Check it!"
The tweet links to a video on the website of the Powdered Whig Society, a group that says it is dedicated "to the restoration and strict obedience to the United States Constitution."
The 12-minute video shows an unidentified woman who is purported to be a litigation attorney describe what it means to be a natural born citizen. She argues that both Rubio and Cruz are citizens, but not "natural born citizens" according to the Constitution, which says only natural born citizens may become president.
Rubio was born in Miami. That makes him a natural born U.S. citizen under the Constitution. But the unnamed woman in the video Trump posted says he is not a "naturalized citizen," because his citizenship is defined under Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. If not for this "man-made law," she says Rubio would have been born a "resident alien," the same status of his parents, both of whom were Cuban nationals.
The supposed attorney later goes on to call Congress using laws to change the original text of the Constitution as "ridiculous."
"In order to understand the genuine meaning of a text, we must use the definition the framer's use, otherwise texts become like Play-Doh. They mean whatever you want them to mean to get the outcome you want," she says.
Cruz, who was born in Canada to father who was a Cuban national and an American mother. Some legal scholars says that leaves his eligibility to run for president in question. But the supposed attorney makes a far more questionable case. She argues that when the Constitution was written, a woman's legal identity was subsumed into her husband's. That would also disqualify Cruz, she says, because it is necessary that he be born of a father who is a citizen.
When the Constitution was written in the 1780s, the purported attorney says all the framers knew what a natural born citizen was, using a definition provided in Swiss philosopher and legal expert Emerich de Vattel's book on political philosophy The Law of Nations. In it, she says, a child's status as a citizen is defined as being inherited from the father, and that it does not matter where the child is born.
Like his eye color, citizenship is "inherited by his parents, it's in his blood," she says. "Not an act of Congress."
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Because Trump has been threatening to file suit for weeks. And now it's becoming clear that the threats were empty ones and all Trump has been doing is shooting his mouth off. Makes Trump look like a loser.
When we tried to bounce Obama, the courts keep saying the challenge was a non-justiciable 'political question' right?
No the courts kept saying that the person filing the suit had no standing to sue. Neither does Trump. And for all his bluster and bloviating I think he realizes that.
I don’t click links unless you tell me what I am clicking on.
Can’t you explain your post to me in plain English without resorting to links to unknown propaganda?
“But he did have his own personal Vietnam said so him self because he dodged all over various venereal diseases from his youth.”
Did you serve in Viet Nam?
Not really. All it would be is Cruz making legitimate points, and Trump in the background yelling "Liar, liar, pants on fire"
“does a narcissistic, manipulative, pathological liar personality disqualify you from the Presidency?”
Nope. Obama is there, and Hillary is running.
My apologies I did not notice that when i dictated it should have read the reason not treason. Dictated with Google Voice
Thank you for recognizing the levity in my comment, it has gotten so crazy around here that even a mild joke will get you attacked.
In less than 5 minutes you can learn just who it is whose earnings are “income” subject to the income tax. You’ll understand why the government doesn’t want you to understand the tax, and why abolishing it would be a really bad idea.
No sir I did not but in no way does that the silliness of Mr Trump statement.
So you venerate the 16th Amendment?
I think you are pretty much alone here.
“No person except a natural born citizen, OR a citizen of the United States..”
If you were correct, you wouldn’t have omitted the rest of the quote. This proves you’re full of it.
Whether they are “imported rulers” or not, the defense is there to protect us. If we give it up, allow anyone in, we will have given away our ability to stop any other “imported rulers” when they do show up.
Two citizen parents of a nation produce a child who is naturally a citizen of that nation. The child can be a citizen of no other nation naturally.
So, your asking for citations to cases on natural born citizen ship is a request for something I didn't claim. There are ZERO cases on the nature of citizenship accorded to a person born abroad, that debate the meaning of NBC, or that find the person to be NBC.
There is a method to his madness, but I have not yet figured it out.>>> you must be a expert hope you figure it out. I know i on occasion retweet but i think the cut and past is a better method
You can keep saying that but it is a fallacy that being entitled to citizenship at birth makes one a Natural born citizen. A natural born citizen is a citizen of one place alone, he/she can be no other because by parentage and birthplace he/she is only an American. People can be entitled to be American at birth because of the law at the time giving certain groups that right despite their being born to only one citizen parent or not on US soil but they are not natural born.
In 1789 what country were the slaves who were born on American soil citizens of?
I'd never call the FRumpsters stupid.
(Misguided perhaps, but I know they all love their country.
(McMahon insulting his sold-out venue of WWE fans, priceless.)
—”NBC = Born on US soil of TWO US citizens.”
What about McCain?
He wasn’t born in the US, but based on the Barry Goldwater Supreme Court case, Goldwater and McCain were eligible to run for POTUS. Goldwater was born in AZ before it was a State.
I would think if a kid was born to TWO US citizens in another country (e.g. two military personnel), that child would be constitutionally eligible, don’t you?
The original topic was about draft dodging. You can piggyback on something else if you want to make some superfluous comment.
So in theory if the nation state of imaginaria declared all persons born on July 13th as citizens of their nation that would invalidate they’re building a natural born citizen in the United States because they would by law have citizenship in two nations. Dictated by Google Voice
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