Posted on 02/20/2016 8:52:39 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Now Donald Trump is questioning Marco Rubio' eligibility for the presidency.
In a tweet Saturday, Trump shared a video of what appears to be an attorney making a bizarre case that not only Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who was born in Canada, but Rubio, whose parents immigranted from Cuba, is not eligible to become president.
In the tweet to his 6.3 million followers, Trump quoted a message sent to him by another Twitter user, who at the time appeared to have five followers: "@realDonaldTrump Mr. Trump...BOTH Cruz AND Rubio are ineligible to be POTUS! It's a SLAM DUNK CASE!! Check it!"
The tweet links to a video on the website of the Powdered Whig Society, a group that says it is dedicated "to the restoration and strict obedience to the United States Constitution."
The 12-minute video shows an unidentified woman who is purported to be a litigation attorney describe what it means to be a natural born citizen. She argues that both Rubio and Cruz are citizens, but not "natural born citizens" according to the Constitution, which says only natural born citizens may become president.
Rubio was born in Miami. That makes him a natural born U.S. citizen under the Constitution. But the unnamed woman in the video Trump posted says he is not a "naturalized citizen," because his citizenship is defined under Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. If not for this "man-made law," she says Rubio would have been born a "resident alien," the same status of his parents, both of whom were Cuban nationals.
The supposed attorney later goes on to call Congress using laws to change the original text of the Constitution as "ridiculous."
"In order to understand the genuine meaning of a text, we must use the definition the framer's use, otherwise texts become like Play-Doh. They mean whatever you want them to mean to get the outcome you want," she says.
Cruz, who was born in Canada to father who was a Cuban national and an American mother. Some legal scholars says that leaves his eligibility to run for president in question. But the supposed attorney makes a far more questionable case. She argues that when the Constitution was written, a woman's legal identity was subsumed into her husband's. That would also disqualify Cruz, she says, because it is necessary that he be born of a father who is a citizen.
When the Constitution was written in the 1780s, the purported attorney says all the framers knew what a natural born citizen was, using a definition provided in Swiss philosopher and legal expert Emerich de Vattel's book on political philosophy The Law of Nations. In it, she says, a child's status as a citizen is defined as being inherited from the father, and that it does not matter where the child is born.
Like his eye color, citizenship is "inherited by his parents, it's in his blood," she says. "Not an act of Congress."
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The issue is not what they are going to pass, it’s what they already have passed. According to the laws on the books, Rubio and Cruz are natural born citizens.
Cruz offered a one on one with Trump but of course, Trump declined. He knows what would come out of that.
Yes, Yes I do. Rather him than a Marty McFly. This grenade against the one world order get thrown right into the white house.
Funny picture I know some folks around here don't like the images. I think as long as posters don't put them on every thread it adds to the fun. Keep it up!
Pretty sure you mean KrisAnne Hall. She is 100% behind Cruz
http://krisannehall.com/liberty-first-with-krisanne-hall-stand-with-ted-cruz-defender-of-liberty/
No the parents didn't have to be born here they had to be citizens, naturalized or by birth. In America we have inheritance of citizenship by blood and by land. The inheritance by blood refers to becoming a citizen by being born to citizens or a single citizen parent.
We also obtain citizenship by being born in America (the land portion). Natural born citizens have both, citizenship by being born to citizens and being born in America or to a diplomat in service to America (has been stretched to military postings).
It is unclear whether children born in America are actually entitled become citizens just on the basis of their birth in America to alien or tourist parents. The 14th Amendment has been stretched to claim so but there is a movement to clarify this interpretation. It is not in America's interest. The United States and Canada are the only developed nations in the world to still offer Birthright Citizenship, the automatic granting of citizenship to children born within a nation's borders or territories to tourists and illegal aliens.
Could you show us that law? What you have said is untrue. There is no law saying that either is a NBC, in point of fact the odds of case law are stacked against them.
you mean supersede
According to the Constitution at that time, citizenship descended from the father.
“But it does raise the question of Trump’s fidelity and loyalty to the United States when he marries non-citizens and produces non NBC children.”
There are quite a number of soldiers who dodged bullets who married non-citizens who would be ready to kick your ass for that statement.
“So it’s not the candidate who must be born in the USA, it’s the candidates PARENTS who must also be born here.”
No. The parents must be CITIZENS of the United States, as in citizen parents.
No.
Under the current interpretation of birthright citizenship, Marco Rubio is a citizen.
That isn’t the issue. He IS a citizen. The question is the qualification of Natural Born Citizen. Only the President and VP are held to this standard. Anyone born on US soil, regardless of parental status at birth is eligible. We have had a number of federal office holders who were citizens, but not natural born citizens, over the years, btw.
Trump just published the video. You haven’t bothered to listen or you would know it said parents were citizens. People CAN become citizens without being born here. As Trump mother did
You obviously aren’t a very good student if you can’t even follow the video. Or think Trump created it.
What’s wrong with the 16th Amendment?
Isn’t that nice, after Trump helped out Cruz with that eligibility question, now he wants to do the same for rubio, And to think, there are people who say Trump is different because he’s not a politician..............could have fooled me!
Yes, that’s why he is not eligible.
Watch the video. It explains it very well
If the strict original intent fundamentalist adherence to every single phrase or clause of the constitution is sacrosanct to you, then nothing.
What she describes is textualism, which was the bedrock of every decision Justice Scalia made. And, she is right.
No. So Cruz can run. At least on that front he's eligible.
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