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Debate Performance Cannot Overshadow Decades of Personal History
Patriot Post ^ | 2/12/16 | Joan Fischer

Posted on 02/19/2016 9:33:47 PM PST by joanie-f

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To: Aquamarine; Squantos; joanie-f; xzins; Jeff Head; Lazamataz; Windflier; Jim Robinson; ...
Trump boasted about bedding other mens wives. "If I told the real stories of my experiences with women, often seemingly very happily married women this book would be a guaranteed best-seller," he wrote.... This is not the kind of person that I would consider worthy enough to have any interaction with much less lead my country.

Jeepers, Aquamarine. This must mean you take a very dim view of Benjamin Franklin, who was a world-class rake. Read your history!

I mean, that guy was a womanizer par excellence, constantly seeking satisfaction of his libidinous urges, especially when he was in Paris; and he didn't care whether his paramours were married or not, or even prostitutes. It amazes me the man died of late old age, and didn't succumb to the ravages of syphillis by the age of 40....

God must have loved him very much.

81 posted on 02/26/2016 11:45:28 AM PST by betty boop (The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.)
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To: betty boop

Well said, betty boop.


82 posted on 02/26/2016 11:53:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: betty boop

Beer and Babe’s ...... Ben knew what was good for him...... :o)


83 posted on 02/26/2016 11:54:02 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Travis McGee; Aquamarine; Squantos; joanie-f; xzins; Jeff Head; Lazamataz; Windflier; ...
That said, I do so full of regret, feeling that I am voting for a possible Mussolini, who cares no more about the Constitution than Obama.

A man who is a possible Mussolini would not be singing the praises of the Bill of Rights like Donald Trump does, on virtually every occasion. In particular, he enthusiastically endorses the First, Second, and Tenth Amendments. It seems some people cannot see past their prejudices to actually listen to what the man has been saying. Or if they do, they dismiss his words as those of a liar.... (WHY???)

The Trump phenomenon has been perplexing to me in many ways, in the reactions he draws from people. Some of my most respected and esteemed political analysts/commentators -- e.g., Charles Krauthammer, Rich Lowry, Stephen Moore, Brent Bozell, Karl Rove, others -- look like they are going into anaphylactic shock at the mere mention of his name. Their eyes glaze over, they get this deer-in-the-headlights look; they start hyperventilating; they foam at the mouth; they look like they're about to have a stroke.... It really is quite a remarkable phenomenon, I just don't understand it....

What may be going on here is people projecting their own quite irrational subjective fears into the shape of a boogyman, which they then use to terrify themselves.

But it's all much ado about nothing, if you were to ask me!

Trump is running first and foremost as an AMERICAN WHO LOVES HIS COUNTRY. NOT as a "party man," but as a patriot. I don't know why some people find this so difficult to accept.

JMHO, FWIW

Be not afraid, my friend!

84 posted on 02/26/2016 12:06:58 PM PST by betty boop (The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.)
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To: Squantos
Beer and Babe's ...... Ben knew what was good for him...... :o)

LOL!!! Probably why he lived so long, Squantos!

85 posted on 02/26/2016 12:09:05 PM PST by betty boop (The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.)
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To: Travis McGee

I have a view that is less bleak. You remember my article about Populism vs. Elitism being new battleground?

Cruz just threw in with the Elitists. That makes our side have ZERO representation. Maybe Jeff Sessions. That’s IT.

Populism cuts across ideological boundaries. You get some liberalism in there, you get some conservatism, you get nationalism.

Most politicians (Obama excluded) are hemmed in by their own words. Trump has made solid and undeniable position statements.

Trump, being a populist, will be a mixed bag for conservatives. He will, however, be strong on Immigration and Second Amendment. Those are my two top concerns.


86 posted on 02/26/2016 12:24:11 PM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: betty boop

Marry me, betty boop.


87 posted on 02/26/2016 12:24:36 PM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: betty boop; Travis McGee; joanie-f; Squantos

Betty...I hope you do not take offense...but quite frankly this is very uncharacteristic of you.

Myself...Joanie...Travis (Matt)...and others are somehow now irrational?

You honestly think that words like “projecting their own quite irrational subjective fears into the shape of a boogyman, which they then use to terrify themselves” are appropriate to use when replying to Travis McGee?

As he said, and as I have said, if it comes down to it I will vote for Trump...and I do believe that there are a number of things...per my own Trump Phenomenon Thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3401409/posts)...that I believe he is very serious about accomplishing which will absolutely help out nation.

But I will still do so with reservations. And I certainly will not discount...and will seriously consider the opinions and heart felt comments of people like Matt, Joanie, Squantos and others whom we have known for years and whom I know to be rock solid, loyal Americans. It just seems that your responses tend to write what they say off with accusations of irrationality or boogeyman fears.

I am just being honest with you dear sister, and I hope you will take it in the spirit it is intended. After something well over 15 years of correspondence with you...this is, IMHO, very out of character for you.

For Matt and Joanie and others...there is nothing wrong with being concerned about people like Trump, or Cruz, or Rubio. They are very talented people...but they are also imperfect people. All of mankind is weak and subject to ills and temptation. It is only through Christ that any of us can be made whole.

when it comes to politics and individuals seeking the Presidency and double and triple dose of concern and skepticism is in order.

I pray the US does turn around. I believe the GOP candidates that are left can each, to one extent or another...help that happen.

My biggest issue regarding all of this is the temperament and spirit that many people are latching onto as a result of it. Even more so than in past elections.

It is a spirit of anger and dissention amongst those of us why have been, and should remain allies. I do not intend to be a part of that.

I do intend to rationally share my own opinions of what I am seeing and pray that the American people will choose aright from the choices they end up getting presented.


88 posted on 02/26/2016 12:34:50 PM PST by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: betty boop
Check out the origins of “Donald Trump, America's modern Mussolini”...

Notice who helped put this accusation to print.

By Dana Milbank Opinion writer December 8, 2015... from the article ..” the conservative military historian Max Boot tweeted: “Trump is a fascist. And that's not a term I use loosely or often. But he's earned it.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-isnt-todays-wendell-willkie-hes-todays-benito-mussolini/2015/12/08/77c81b0c-9ddc-11e5-a3c5-c77f2cc5a43c_story.html

89 posted on 02/26/2016 12:39:04 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: bigbob
"And it would give him a chance to work on his ethics, which are pretty shaky"

There are far more examples of possible "shaky ethics" with other candidate's impending fraud law suits, hiring practices, financial dealings, and support of other politicians with EXTREMELY shaky ethics.

90 posted on 02/26/2016 12:48:21 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Jeff Head; Travis McGee; tet68; Squantos
Very well said, Jeff.

Like you, despite my very deep reservations about Donald Trump's character, and the troubling historical examples of his fleeting allegiances, I will vote for him in November if the choice comes down to him or any other likely democrat.

I see such a vote as voting for the proverbial 'pig in a poke', since I have absolutely no idea the kind of leadership decisions he will make. His history is so littered with changes of heart, and so many of his decisions seem to have been based on one primary goal: the increase of his own personal power and wealth. When you insert such a man into the role of President of the United States, and leader of the free world, you are taking a monumental gamble as to how he will exercise that power, both in his executive role here at home and in his dealings with the leaders of foreign powers. It's a terrifying roll of the dice.

And yet we KNOW what we will get with a President Clinton or a President Sanders, and the thought of either one sitting in the White House is beyond abhorrent.

God bless and keep you, Jeff. We know, after all is said and done, Who is in control, and no amount of activism, or worry, or concern, is stronger or wiser than His will. May He forgive this country's turning her back on Him and inspire a reawakening among her people, and may the man who seeks to simply do what is right for this country be sitting in the White House next January 20th.

91 posted on 02/26/2016 12:50:14 PM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: betty boop
Yes, I do take a dim view of Benjamin Franklins promiscuous behavior and could admire him as a man even more if he had been a stronger man of character. He was lucky to have survived the consequences of his bad behavior and still had to live with the knowledge that he was weak in the way he handled his carnal temptations.

We have a choice between a world-class rake and a righteous man who tries to follow God's Laws. Why are people making this so complicated?

92 posted on 02/26/2016 1:02:43 PM PST by Aquamarine (Vote Conservative.)
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To: BlueNgold
"Cruz is undoubtedly a talented and smart man. "

Then vote for him. What do you want- perfection ? Excuse me for sounding harsh-But my God- we are about to lose this country and everything that made it great.

We have a good man- Well versed in the Constitution, with a life long record of standing up for the principles of our nation, often standing by himself- Who is hated for exposing the do nothings in Congress who have sold us out.

And your griping about miniscule things like fund raisers. Cruz is not a billionaire- He has to fund raise.

If you want self funding vote for Trump. Problem is - you have absolutely no idea what you will get with him as POTUS.

His record is filled with inconsistencies, possible major scandals, and support for far left candidates:

An example of Trump being on both sides-Last night Trump said he would do away with the EPA- But in Iowa he said he would use the EPA to enforce higher Ethanol standards . Who knows what Trump will do as POTUS?

With Cruz, the life long record is there.

You have a pretty good idea of what he (Cruz) will do in office. (And I love his tax plan).

He can beat Hillary.

You can't say the the above things about any of the other candidates.

We are not voting for American Idol. We are voting for a person who will become the most powerful leader of the free world.

Please think before you vote. The future of our nation depends on it.

93 posted on 02/26/2016 2:02:29 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: joanie-f

I guess my take is if one isn’t inclined to research a candidate then they aren’t likely to read a piece about researching candidates no matter how sound that advice is.


94 posted on 02/26/2016 2:13:56 PM PST by moehoward
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To: Lazamataz

LOLOL!!! You so funny, Laz!


95 posted on 02/26/2016 4:01:39 PM PST by betty boop (The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.)
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To: betty boop; Lazamataz

Excellent. But don’t marry Laz.


96 posted on 02/26/2016 4:03:49 PM PST by OwenKellogg (Trump all the way.)
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To: Aquamarine
We have a choice between a world-class rake and a righteous man who tries to follow God's Laws.

TED CRUZ is "a righteous man who tries to follow God's laws?" ???

PIFFLE!!!

Ted Cruz is as crooked as a country road.

97 posted on 02/26/2016 4:08:32 PM PST by betty boop (The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.)
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To: OwenKellogg; Lazamataz

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


98 posted on 02/26/2016 4:09:17 PM PST by betty boop (The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.)
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To: Jeff Head

I’m not taking offense. You’re entitled to your opinion, Jeff.


99 posted on 02/26/2016 4:10:45 PM PST by betty boop (The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Thanks so much for the link, Just my thoughts. So, that's how this rumor got started....
100 posted on 02/26/2016 4:14:22 PM PST by betty boop (The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead.)
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