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Donald Trump Lied About His Support Of The Second Amendment
Bearingarms.com ^ | 18 Feb 16 | Bob Owens

Posted on 02/18/2016 7:06:18 PM PST by big'ol_freeper

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To: Helicondelta

That was a Cruz ad, I believe. I know Cruzader used two little girls in an ad, to parrot a litany of charges against TRUMP. Using the kids didn’t go over very well, but at least he burned through his money to do it.


81 posted on 02/18/2016 10:23:33 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: DoughtyOne

LOL

Got to love ya!

God bless Donald Trump and keep him safe.

God bless America and keep her safe.


82 posted on 02/18/2016 10:25:03 PM PST by ConfidentConservative (If my people shall humble themselves and pray,I will hear from Heaven and heal their land.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I expect Flynn to be named soon as a part of TRUMP’s first team military counsel, if he dares name names in the next few weeks. These guys and Jeff Sessions have already been counseling TRUMP.


83 posted on 02/18/2016 10:27:20 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: ConfidentConservative

“:^)

Thanks...


84 posted on 02/18/2016 10:33:37 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: RitaOK

I sure hope so ! Obama’s minions have done their best to cull all true patriots and war fighters from the ranks for years . When Trump , or Cruz get in , there needs to be a mighty purge of all the p/c brown nose career honkies Obama has stacked the deck with


85 posted on 02/18/2016 10:34:57 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Helicondelta

I see you’re branching out into a new species of insult.

Very vulturific of you...

And now all of Ted’s neighbors knose...


86 posted on 02/18/2016 10:35:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

AMEN!


87 posted on 02/18/2016 10:51:09 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Trump’s position from his website:

Donald J. Trump on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms

The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period.

The Second Amendment guarantees a fundamental right that belongs to all law-abiding Americans. The Constitution doesn’t create that right – it ensures that the government can’t take it away. Our Founding Fathers knew, and our Supreme Court has upheld, that the Second Amendment’s purpose is to guarantee our right to defend ourselves and our families. This is about self-defense, plain and simple.

It’s been said that the Second Amendment is America’s first freedom. That’s because the Right to Keep and Bear Arms protects all our other rights. We are the only country in the world that has a Second Amendment. Protecting that freedom is imperative. Here’s how we will do that:

Enforce The Laws On The Books

We need to get serious about prosecuting violent criminals. The Obama administration’s record on that is abysmal. Violent crime in cities like Baltimore, Chicago and many others is out of control. Drug dealers and gang members are given a slap on the wrist and turned loose on the street. This needs to stop.

Several years ago there was a tremendous program in Richmond, Virginia called Project Exile. It said that if a violent felon uses a gun to commit a crime, you will be prosecuted in federal court and go to prison for five years – no parole or early release. Obama’s former Attorney General, Eric Holder, called that a “cookie cutter” program. That’s ridiculous. I call that program a success. Murders committed with guns in Richmond decreased by over 60% when Project Exile was in place – in the first two years of the program alone, 350 armed felons were taken off the street.

Why does that matter to law-abiding gun owners? Because they’re the ones who anti-gun politicians and the media blame when criminals misuse guns. We need to bring back and expand programs like Project Exile and get gang members and drug dealers off the street. When we do, crime will go down and our cities and communities will be safer places to live.

Here’s another important way to fight crime – empower law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves. Law enforcement is great, they do a tremendous job, but they can’t be everywhere all of the time. Our personal protection is ultimately up to us. That’s why I’m a gun owner, that’s why I have a concealed carry permit, and that’s why tens of millions of Americans have concealed carry permits as well. It’s just common sense. To make America great again, we’re going to go after criminals and put the law back on the side of the law-abiding.

Fix Our Broken Mental Health System

Let’s be clear about this. Our mental health system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Too many politicians have ignored this problem for too long.

All of the tragic mass murders that occurred in the past several years have something in common – there were red flags that were ignored. We can’t allow that to continue. We need to expand treatment programs, because most people with mental health problems aren’t violent, they just need help. But for those who are violent, a danger to themselves or others, we need to get them off the street before they can terrorize our communities. This is just common sense.

And why does this matter to law-abiding gun owners? Once again, because they get blamed by anti-gun politicians, gun control groups and the media for the acts of deranged madmen. When one of these tragedies occurs, we can count on two things: one, that opponents of gun rights will immediately exploit it to push their political agenda; and two, that none of their so-called “solutions” would have prevented the tragedy in the first place. They’ve even admitted it.

We need real solutions to address real problems. Not grandstanding or political agendas.

Defend The Rights of Law-Abiding Gun Owners

GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS. Gun and magazine bans are a total failure. That’s been proven every time it’s been tried. Opponents of gun rights try to come up with scary sounding phrases like “assault weapons”, “military-style weapons” and “high capacity magazines” to confuse people. What they’re really talking about are popular semi-automatic rifles and standard magazines that are owned by tens of millions of Americans. Law-abiding people should be allowed to own the firearm of their choice. The government has no business dictating what types of firearms good, honest people are allowed to own.

BACKGROUND CHECKS. There has been a national background check system in place since 1998. Every time a person buys a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer – which is the overwhelming majority of all gun purchases – they go through a federal background check. Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go through background checks are law-abiding gun owners. When the system was created, gun owners were promised that it would be instant, accurate and fair. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case today. Too many states are failing to put criminal and mental health records into the system – and it should go without saying that a system’s only going to be as effective as the records that are put into it. What we need to do is fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.

NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

MILITARY BASES AND RECRUITING CENTERS. Banning our military from carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers is ridiculous. We train our military how to safely and responsibly use firearms, but our current policies leave them defenseless. To make America great again, we need a strong military. To have a strong military, we need to allow them to defend themselves.


88 posted on 02/18/2016 10:55:17 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: JayGalt
The point is Donald Trump contributed much more to the Republicans then the Dems over the last 20 years, and most notably almost nothing to Dems in the last 7 years. Since 2012 almost no donations to Democrats but from 1989-2011 donations to Democrats were $85,000 more than to Republicans.
89 posted on 02/18/2016 11:00:53 PM PST by Baumer (Most areas of Washington are Conservative. Cruz 2016!!!)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
Trump has long believed in gun rights ... for himself, but not for the peasants.

"Democrats want to confiscate all guns, which is a dumb idea because only the law-abiding citizens would turn in their guns and the bad guys would be the only ones left armed."

--Donald Trump, The America We Deserve (2000)

90 posted on 02/18/2016 11:08:21 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: big'ol_freeper

This is the weakest argument against Trump.

A big businessman gives to both parties.

Which is pretty much a requirement for being competitive and getting things done unfortunately in our system.

It doesn’t indicate anything about his personal beliefs in my opinion


91 posted on 02/18/2016 11:14:51 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: big'ol_freeper

NRA has given money to Harry Ried


92 posted on 02/18/2016 11:32:28 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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To: Lucky9teen
Donald Trump is a man without convictions
He flips and he flops without restrictions
Speaking out to the crowd
As long as its loud
He gets away with spouting his fictions

Not good.

Donald Trump he had no convictions
He flipped and he flopped no restrictions
Shouting out to the crowd
As long as he's loud
He never gets called on his fictions

Hope this helps.

93 posted on 02/19/2016 12:13:57 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: Cen-Tejas
If you want your project approved, and sometimes it is approved with only one vote to spare, then you better give political donations to both sides. It is as simple as that.

Don't waste your time. These purists live in a fantasy world. I'd tell them to watch Back to School where Rodney Dangerfield explains some of these facts to a snotty professor who never spent a day in business but they'd probably faint from the language.

94 posted on 02/19/2016 12:23:55 AM PST by MaxFlint
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To: Kenny
Are you saying he does not donate to Democrats like Hillary, Reid, and other ilk that want to take our weapons?

Hum, do you are you denying this? Is that a lie?

95 posted on 02/19/2016 12:39:03 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Trump is a liar

And this story is a pathetic attempt to twist a businessman's donations into an anti-2nd Amendment deal.

I'm starting to think that those who use this sort of crap in order to help boost Cruz says something bad about a lot of Cruz supporters - and I donated hundreds to him over 6 months....w/o catching the mental disease that seems to have infected so many.

96 posted on 02/19/2016 3:59:08 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: eartick

Katrina made a good point last night on O’Reilly. You say that Trump donating to people his is one of them.

He donated to Ted Cruz. Does that make him your version of a rock-solid conservative.


97 posted on 02/19/2016 6:19:13 AM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Baumer

You can cherry pick the years you group to show a small inequality but the total over the >20 year periods is more than $350K greater donations to Republicans than his donations to Democrats.

Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years.

Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto).


98 posted on 02/19/2016 6:41:05 AM PST by JayGalt (Come not between the nazgul and his prey.)
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To: MaxFlint

Lol, your right!

I sometimes feel like the proverbial Dutch boy who had his finger in the hole in the dyke.


99 posted on 02/19/2016 7:35:57 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: LeoWindhorse
This is a third-grader discussion of Trump and Cruz.

"The military means to remove the entire civilian government of the United States of America..."

Where the he** did that come from?

100 posted on 02/19/2016 4:59:56 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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