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RE: And by removing Saddam, Bush did destabilize the ME.

We have to remind ourselves that after the surge of 2007 and the Anbar Awakening, ALL of Iraq was taken over by the Iraqi government we supported.

Obama was given a relatively peaceful Iraq in 2008 and things were relatively quiet for 3 years.

Obama decided then to PULL OUT ALL TROOPS against the advise of his generals, the CIA and even his defense secretary.

He UNDERESTIMATED the threat of terrorism and overlooked the stabilizing presence of our troops. Them he goes and makes a deal with Iran.

So, I define success as keeping the status quo between 2008 and 2011.

That success was destroyed by the next administration.

OBAMA destabilized the Middle East.

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The Iraqi government refused to let us stay.

And there was no way the U.S. could remain indefinitely anyway.

Furthermore, the idea that Iraq could remain a non-sharia state without a secular thug holding the islamists under control is now know to be false.

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He UNDERESTIMATED the threat of terrorism and overlooked the stabilizing presence of our troops. Them he goes and makes a deal with Iran.

Obama is scum.

That said, I think he knew what he was doing (i.e. he's a jihadi).