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To: Smokin' Joe

Sounds to me like you need to get your guns out and capture a federal WMA, but don’t go trying to take that one in Oregon


50 posted on 02/19/2016 9:25:41 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I am doing what needs to be done.

Trying to peacefully make people aware of the problem.

The majority of landowners are not seeking to take anything from anyone else, only to retain what they have, and use it to make a living as they have in the past. Deeded property and water rights are property, too, is owned, not by the government, but by individuals.

Until the ability to make such rules as those which encroach on that property is gone, until the use of such rules to punish people who have only used the same effective means of making a living they always have has been stopped, until our Federal Government stops using a host of excuses to take more land, the problem will not be resolved.

Some field agent getting killed or killing someone else won't make one bit of difference where the decisions are made that perpetrate the ongoing injustice of taking life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Either this is fought peacefully or it will eventually be fought in a bloodbath. The latter should be avoided if at all possible, and any who advocate it should think long and hard about just what they propose.

If this was some corporation or a 'robber baron' people in the media would present the case, howling at the injustice, appealing to the Government for redress and justice.

What do you do when the bureaucrats of our Government and their agencies are the robber barons? When those who make and enforce rules and regulations act in an arbitrary and capricious manner when making the rules and when enforcing them, and when just fighting a rule costs a fortune for those who fight it, but nothing to those who craft it.

It is difficult to make people realize that the land in question is more than an heirloom, more than a square on a piece of paper or a dollar value. It is, for those of us who have make our living there, the means of production, of sustenance, the future for our progeny, the past for our ancestors, and those ties run deep. Far deeper than any attachment to a tract house someone will flip in 5 years, hopefully for a profit when they move again.

This isn't the shallow infatuation of do-gooders, this is people fighting for their way of life.

Of course, many people won't care unless and until it directly affects them.

They have been taught from the cradle to look at people in any of the extractive industries as the unwashed masses who do what they do because they are lesser beings who get their hands dirty.

The concept that screwing over the person you regard as inferior is okay (if not your duty!), has been hammered into the heads of the urbane for decades.

s >And even more, why should those hicks have all that nice land with such a beautiful view? Take it from them so the city people can come visit (and stuff used diapers behind the trees and throw their trash all over before they go back to the hive).

/s

52 posted on 02/19/2016 4:32:23 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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