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The More Donald Trump Defies His Party, the More His Supporters Cheer
The New York Times ^ | February 17,2016 | TRIP GABRIEL

Posted on 02/17/2016 1:59:00 PM PST by Hojczyk

Mr. Trumps decision to seize on immigration as his signature issue has showed how out of step the Republican establishment is with rank-and-file voters. Mr. Trumps call to deport more than 11 million undocumented people in the country, denounced as impossible and inhumane, has substantial support. One in four voters in a New York Times poll last year said illegal immigrants should be required to leave the country.

Exit polls from the New Hampshire primary, which Mr. Trump won decisively, showed 65 percent of Republicans supported his call for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the United States.

A CNN/ORC poll of South Carolina released on Tuesday showed Mr. Trump with a 16-point lead over his closest rival, Mr. Cruz. Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and Jeb Bush occupied a third tier.

Most surprising, perhaps, is that Mr. Trump led Mr. Cruz by 20 percentage points among evangelical voters, whose support Mr. Cruz rallied to win the Iowa caucuses this month.

The poll showed Mr. Trump losing supporters after the debate on Saturday, with 40 percent supporting him before and 31 percent afterward.

Another pollster, David Woodard of Clemson University, said his survey of Republicans showed Mr. Trumps support holding steady after the debate.

Even after Trumps debate performance, with all the dysfunctional behavior the next day his numbers were the same as before the debate! Go figure, he said in an email.

Hogan Gidley, a former executive director of the South Carolina Republican Party, whose roots are in the evangelical community, said the Republican base was angry about sending politicians with impeccable conservative credentials to Washington, but seeing nothing change there.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 02/17/2016 1:59:00 PM PST by Hojczyk
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Yes, we are anti-RNC establishment and want it torn down because it is corrupt!


2 posted on 02/17/2016 1:59:54 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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It’s not his party. He’s a democrat.


3 posted on 02/17/2016 2:00:49 PM PST by wny
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And the more Dems he might attract in the general election.


4 posted on 02/17/2016 2:00:52 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Hojczyk
What I was alluding to earlier. You can't attack Trump, or respond to him. If you do, no matter what you say, you will validate what HE says in his supporters minds.

The other candidates all look desperate.

5 posted on 02/17/2016 2:02:28 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Hojczyk

Who does Trump think is paying for the convention? Or is he going to skip that as well?


6 posted on 02/17/2016 2:02:33 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Obama Rules of Engagement: Hands up Don't Shoot)
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To: Hojczyk

The New York Times is promoting Trump. We get it.


7 posted on 02/17/2016 2:02:42 PM PST by nickcarraway
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You reap what you sow, the saying goes.

The one thing T.E.A Party Conservatives and Trumpsters can agree, the RNC can go to hell.

8 posted on 02/17/2016 2:07:02 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Yes, we are anti-RNC establishment and want it torn down because it is corrupt!

I will make a prediction. Trump will gather more and more supporters, and win the Presidency. Young people are disaffected by current societal conditions, and want the establishment torn down because it's corrupt. Trump will go on to galvanize support from all, regardless of party affiliation. He will make the country stronger and more prosperous. However, there is a danger that he will become a tyrant and his followers will squash his enemies, those who don't follow in lockstep. It's happened before in history (1930's Germany is one example). Whether he is a good tyrant, or a bad one, remains to be seen.

9 posted on 02/17/2016 2:11:27 PM PST by roadcat
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The More Donald Trump Defies His Party, the More His Supporters Cheer

Yeah, there's a lesson there for those in the GOP willing to see it - their base supports conservatism, and their support for the GOP follows from that. Not vice versa. An unprincipled GOP which turns its back on conservatism to chase the same votes as the Democrats will go the way of the dinosaur.
10 posted on 02/17/2016 2:12:10 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: TexasCajun

The one thing T.E.A Party Conservatives and Trumpsters can agree, the RNC can go to hell.

Yep, that about sums it up, The Establishment is the Enemy.


11 posted on 02/17/2016 2:12:42 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: cincinnati65

The other candidates all look traditional, just like all of them we have sent to Washington since Reagan, who was the last one to accomplish what he was voted into office for.

The rest have betrayed us, at best.

The only two from outside the system are Carson and Trump, and only one puts the most important issue at the top of the list:THE ECONOMY.

The other candidates are desperate, and it shows.


12 posted on 02/17/2016 2:12:47 PM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: TexasCajun

No too hard to understand, since it told the TEA Party to GTH first.


13 posted on 02/17/2016 2:15:01 PM PST by libstripper
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14 posted on 02/17/2016 2:16:03 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: roadcat

It took years for that to happen in Germany. And it was violent. Have not seen the organization of browshirts and all that happened there.

Have not seen that here...yet.

I do not think that will happen here even with Trump, BUT, I do think of Augustus often.


15 posted on 02/17/2016 2:16:59 PM PST by crz
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-— The other candidates all look traditional -—

The other candidates all look rational, compared to the real estate guy.


16 posted on 02/17/2016 2:19:03 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: roadcat

We have a Constitution to prevent that sought of thing.


17 posted on 02/17/2016 2:19:50 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: musicman

“The Pissed Off Party”

Donald J. Trump, founder


18 posted on 02/17/2016 2:21:02 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first and then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: roadcat

It is difficult to imagine a candidate so eager to please and constantly changing his position or talking about making deals with the opposition as a tyrant. Whether Trump will be able to fulfill his many and grandiose promises is a much bigger deal than authoritarianism in my mind. He needs to start getting realistic with some supporters, particularly on the ease of building a wall.


19 posted on 02/17/2016 2:21:06 PM PST by erlayman (yw)
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If Trump had run as a democrat in their primary and said “Build a wall” and “Stop the muslims from coming in” he wouldn’t have gotten 1% of the vote in Iowa OR NH. So he had to run as a republican.


20 posted on 02/17/2016 2:38:17 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. - Sam Adams)
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