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Donald Trump: Truth Teller?
TIME ^ | 2/15/2016 | Joe Klein

Posted on 02/17/2016 12:03:45 PM PST by Elderberry

If Trump doesn't fizzle now, Republicans will have to ask themselves what their party actually does stand for

Well, this is going to be an interesting week -- a week in which the ultimate Donald Trump question may, or may not, be answered: Can he say absolutely anything at all and still win the Republican nomination? It has already been established that there is no upper limit to the boorishness he is permitted by his foolish followers. But in Saturday's debate, Trump firmly established himself as a policy apostate in the GOP race. And the question now is, will conservatives tolerate a candidate who is well to the left of the Democratic mainstream on some crucial national-security issues, and also a supporter of Planned Parenthood?

We knew most of this before, but Trump placed the following markers in the South Carolina debate:

He once again claimed opposition to the Iraq war. This is a position that even most Republicans agree with nowadays, but Trump took it in the harshest possible way, by making it a personal attack on President George W. Bush. And then he launched himself into cloud-cuckooland by asserting that Bush had knowingly lied about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. He "lied us into war" was, I think, the Trumpian term of art. This is a position that only the left of the left has entertained. The truth is, the U.S. intelligence community was absolutely convinced Saddam had chemical and biological weapons, but not so certain about nuclear capability. The Bush Administration -- especially the Cheney-Rumsfeld phalanx -- did many questionable and some outright sordid things, but they went to war actually thinking there were WMD in Iraq. It was still one of the two or three worst decisions ever made by an American President,

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1 posted on 02/17/2016 12:03:45 PM PST by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

It’s curious how only Republicans have to explain what they stand for.

No one asks the democrats that- because I guess we all know they are for “the people”


2 posted on 02/17/2016 12:05:10 PM PST by Mr. K (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: Elderberry

Wow Joe “Cannot tell the truth about Iraq because it is seen as helping Bush” Klein, you really think after publicly exposing yourself as just another Democrat party shill in 2006, anyone takes anything you say seriously any more?


3 posted on 02/17/2016 12:05:55 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Elderberry

Heads exploding...heads exploding...love it...Go Trump Go!!


4 posted on 02/17/2016 12:06:14 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Elderberry

TIME magazine, truth arbiter?


5 posted on 02/17/2016 12:07:26 PM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: Elderberry

Trump’s not going to fizzle because his supporters don’t care what he says. At this point it’s all theatrics and entertainment. Substance doesn’t matter.


6 posted on 02/17/2016 12:07:36 PM PST by Durbin
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To: Elderberry

Donald Trump cannot be a truth teller, for he disagrees with Ted Cruz, which automatically makes him a liar.


7 posted on 02/17/2016 12:08:12 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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To: Elderberry

Uh, Trump is running AGAINST the party.


8 posted on 02/17/2016 12:08:13 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: free_life

So let me get this straight - TIME is now arguing that there WERE WMD’s?

Liberals have no shame.


9 posted on 02/17/2016 12:08:18 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: Elderberry

Blah blah blah, Trump is terrible, blah blah blah.

Liberal concern trolls gonna troll.


10 posted on 02/17/2016 12:09:24 PM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: Elderberry

He is 5,000 lies into this campaign and someone writes a title like that??


11 posted on 02/17/2016 12:09:30 PM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: samtheman

We quit taking Time back when toilet paper was invented.


12 posted on 02/17/2016 12:09:50 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Elderberry

Well it will stand for Americans electing an American who doesn’t give a crap about either party and maybe it’s time for both to go to hell as they aint done crap for US in the last 7 years except take away our freedoms incrementally and piss US off!
Go Trump go!


13 posted on 02/17/2016 12:10:02 PM PST by Harpotoo
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To: Elderberry

“foolish followers.”

Time had better get ready for Trump incoming. He had been praising Time for a positive article they wrote a few weeks ago.


14 posted on 02/17/2016 12:10:24 PM PST by Rennes Templar (I'm pro gun control: keep your guns under your control at all times.)
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To: Elderberry

Go Trump!


15 posted on 02/17/2016 12:11:03 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: Elderberry

and now 500 posts from trumpeters who will attack the messenger rather than address the following from the article: will the trumpeters “tolerate a candidate who is well to the left of the Democratic mainstream”

my bet is that they’re principles are so muddled and malleable the answer is sadly, yes. And our Republic will die because of their perfidy.


16 posted on 02/17/2016 12:11:36 PM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: freedomlover

Liberals have no shame.


They do not know the meaning of the word.


17 posted on 02/17/2016 12:12:05 PM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: vette6387

There was time before time when Time didn’t exist. And it was good.

(Yea, ponder that)


18 posted on 02/17/2016 12:12:17 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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To: Durbin

Trump’s supporters are rebelling against the GOP! They don’t care what his opponent say. And they don’t give a fig about the GOP or the idiot pundit class.

Don’t look now but the voters have been lied to too many times and are mighty pissed!


19 posted on 02/17/2016 12:12:17 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to to God!)
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To: Mr. K

Can Cruz say anything and win the nomination?


20 posted on 02/17/2016 12:12:39 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump for me. I want to see Hillary, Bernie or any demoncrap crushed)
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