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Hey Republicans, This Is How You Beat Trump—For Real [the Daily Beast wants to save the GOP]
Daily Beast ^ | 17 Feb 16 | Stuart Stevens

Posted on 02/17/2016 11:23:49 AM PST by elhombrelibre

A few months ago I wrote that Donald Trump was probably going to withdraw before the Iowa caucuses rather than face the embarrassment of defeat. Wrong. He did lose Iowa, seemed momentarily humbled, but then quickly reverted to form by asserting that he really won. He went on to a landslide victory in New Hampshire and now leads in South Carolina.

While much of the political world speculates that Trump may be creating a new kind of candidacy largely immune to normal attacks, let me make another assertion (that may prove as wrong as the previous): Donald Trump should be easy to defeat. What makes him not a “normal” candidate actually makes him more vulnerable rather than stronger. Let me explain.

In a Republican primary, Trump lacks both an ideological or geographic base. For all the focus on his bigoted remarks about Mexicans and Muslims, Trump has won self-identified moderate voters in both Iowa and New Hampshire. In Iowa, he lost conservatives and very conservatives but won them in NH (in a landslide victory like he had in NH, it’s hard to win everything.) In a party that is increasingly dominated by the South and Sunbelt, Trump lives on Fifth Avenue.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: trump2016
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To: Goldsborough
Trump ain’t gonna build you a wall, hence the self-deception.

Time will tell on that one, now won't it? Course now the cocky Cuban claims he will build a bigger wall... Open borders thieves are not going to win this one!!!!

161 posted on 02/17/2016 12:52:21 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Yes, thank you for this update....Cruz is starting to engage more, but I hope he ratchets up the hits...it appears that you can get away with this now!

I like the LBJ story about the pig...I would prefer to say that Trump is a cross-dresser when he’s at home and wears his long blonde hair down at night, just like a girl! Let’s see this clown deny it!


162 posted on 02/17/2016 12:52:28 PM PST by HoosierWordsmith
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To: digger48

Exactly like that!!


163 posted on 02/17/2016 12:52:48 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: austinaero
Yep. They should continue calling Trump supporters names and screaming how holy they are and how stupid everyone else is. That should seal the deal for Cruz.

And they should definitely, over and over, compare Trump to Hitler and Mussolini. That's the most persuasive argument of all.

164 posted on 02/17/2016 12:52:49 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Goldsborough

Hope you’re wrong, if not, say hello hill and good bye America.


165 posted on 02/17/2016 12:57:30 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of Socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: austinaero

Yes, absolutely. It works for Trump, no? That’s why he is winning.


166 posted on 02/17/2016 12:58:38 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Goldsborough

>>If some anti-trump vitriol was all it took to make you a trumpette, you’re a weak willed individual.

No, you misunderstand again. Your rants do not make us become Trump supporters. Trump did that. It is your antics that makes us wonder what flavor the Kruz Aid is. It has become obvious that he’s just another sleazy lawyer/politician who has never done anything real in his life, but most of us were really hoping that his “principled” persona was more than a facade so that he could be Trump’s VP and successor.

People like you just keep us from being able to converse with the intelligent, reasonable Cruz supporters (and there are many who I would hope are embarrassed by you).


167 posted on 02/17/2016 12:59:14 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: elhombrelibre
I've been a tax paying good Limbaugh conservative sheep for ever. It has gotten me nowhere. I've been laid off and replaced by an H-1B in the past. The SOTH lies and says he doesn't know the program exists. Rush never talks about it. And it is a huge scam of a program. But it isn't just that, the Establishment Conservative "movement" is nothing but cover for NWO gloBULLism. F the Republican off shoring Free Traitor™ Establishment. F em all.

I look at Trump like a torpedo, a political weapon of mass destruction. Will there be collateral damage sure. I just hope the Donald gores ALL the ox's.

168 posted on 02/17/2016 1:00:13 PM PST by central_va
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To: Goldsborough

>> That orangey moron is not as popular as you imagine him to be <<

Agreed. About 40% of GOP likely voters seem to love him. About 60% don’t.

So consider the following arithmetic:

Republicans are about 30% of the national electorate.

Therefore, thanks to his current 40% “popularity” with ‘Pubs, Trump seems to have a lock on about 12% of the national electorate.

Then let’s say he can pull in about 25% of the independents and about 15% of the Dhims. That gives him about 14% more of the national electorate, for a total national vote of about 26%.

And give him another chunk of the remaining GOP voters, let’s say half of them, making an additional 9% for his national total — which rises to 35%

Now, what’s he gotta do to get that total up over 50%?

Very hard to see a path to victory. It just ain’t gonna happen, in my humble opinion.


169 posted on 02/17/2016 1:00:40 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: The Unknown Republican

>>No, they aren’t rare. Trump loses to both Clinton and Sanders.

If it is because Cruz supporters stay home and pout, then we deserve to lose and lose big. If they stay home on election day, then we really are The Stupid Party.


170 posted on 02/17/2016 1:02:37 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Hawthorn

Massive numbers of indies and pubbies are going to have to come out and vote.

In NH, they did pretty well, I heard they believe they will get those blocks out as well.

Gotta be massive.


171 posted on 02/17/2016 1:03:00 PM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: central_va

Get back on your meds. Some of us love America.


172 posted on 02/17/2016 1:03:19 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Hawthorn

I heard they believe they will get those blocks out in SC as well


173 posted on 02/17/2016 1:04:28 PM PST by Daffynition (*Security, confiscate their coats. Get them out of here. It's 10 below zero out there ~DJT)
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To: Goldsborough

>> Trump ain’t gonna build you a wall <<

Of course not. Mexico will build it. Have you forgotten?


174 posted on 02/17/2016 1:04:44 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: elhombrelibre
Trump is ahead in the polls because more voters support his candidacy.

Your chosen candidate is behind in the polls because less voters support his/her candidacy.

It seems the more you people attack Trump and his supporters, the greater his support grows. Maybe it is because none of the other candidates represent the best interests of American citizens, and the citizens know this.

175 posted on 02/17/2016 1:05:30 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn

Maybe, and maybe it’s because there are too many alternatives to Trump. They’re collectively getting about 65%


176 posted on 02/17/2016 1:07:08 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: dinoparty
Get back on your meds. Some of us love America.

Three days to go to another Trumpslide™. You are going to need the meds not me.

177 posted on 02/17/2016 1:07:37 PM PST by central_va
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To: Bryanw92

I won’t be staying home, but I refuse to vote for another liberal.


178 posted on 02/17/2016 1:09:49 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: SeaHawkFan

Actually, if you cared to look through my post history, you’d see that I was enthusiastic about Cruz as an option before the shame mailer.

But you don’t care, so carry on.


179 posted on 02/17/2016 1:13:53 PM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: The Unknown Republican

>>I won’t be staying home, but I refuse to vote for another liberal.

Good. Stay strong!

I have a high-skill job in critical infrastructure. I’ll do just fine in the Sanders socialist state.


180 posted on 02/17/2016 1:18:18 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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