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Still Report #621 – Cruz Delegate Quits Cruz in Disgust
Still Report ^ | 02-16-16 | Bill Still

Posted on 02/16/2016 2:57:03 PM PST by Whitebread

C. Steven Tucker, a nationally-recognized healthcare policy expert and a delegate to the Republican convention for Ted Cruz, has come out publicly that he is abandoning Cruz because of his inability to tell the truth. 'I have bit my tongue long enough. As a delegate for Senator Ted Cruz I have been placed into a difficult and increasingly uncomfortable position and now I have had enough.' ..............


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bfac; cruz; scprimary; trump
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To: skeeter; ripnbang
I saw him say it.

Yes you did and because of his scattered sentences you can actually presume he said it, but you could also take it to mean he was talking about the uncovered not being allowed to die in the street.

His inability to complete a sentence/thought before rambling on to another is not good for him, something I have noted would be a problem from the get go.

You also might notice that my opinion was overruled by the people.

101 posted on 02/16/2016 4:51:36 PM PST by itsahoot (1st impression. Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. VoteTrump)
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To: odawg

Then you have failed to notice the facts of the plan, just because it passes his body of the legislature doesn’t mean he stopped fighting, nor does he say that the people didn’t stop it. In fact quite the opposite, he gave the credit to the American people for phoning their congress critters and putting pressure on them to defeat the Laws mentioned. He explained that the started with only a few handful of conservatives in both houses willing to oppose it, and went to the American people. He explained that as the days passed the votes that where whipped for the bill started to dwindle, until it was defeated, and it was the American People who forced the Legislature to vote their way. I agree that Eric Cantor losing his primary did a lot to alter the course of the amnesty bill. However your saying that Cantor lost was the only reason is two forms of logical fallacy called Hasty Conclusion and Oversimplification. Now looking at the Senate, which if I remember at the time was still controlled by dems. With a smaller majority to be sure, but there were enough uniparty repubs willing to go along with it Rubio to name one, that there weren’t enough votes to kill it in the Senate.


102 posted on 02/16/2016 4:56:17 PM PST by PA-LU Student (https://www.tedcruz.org/l/ducking-donald/)
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To: itsahoot
But the poor haven't been allowed to die in the streets of this nation - ever. Its just not a problem that needs solving. So why say it?

It is obviously an appeal to emotion in order to justify more government involvement. This is disturbing, to me anyway, because it is exactly the same tactic the left has used for decades to justify the same thing. Ever increasing government involvement.

Again, I can only conclude based upon what he has said.

103 posted on 02/16/2016 4:57:58 PM PST by skeeter
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To: over3Owithabrain
Even Rush gave pause today when he played the Cruz audio of "54 million evangelicals stayed home". You could tell Rush thought it was bullshit but didn't want to out his boy.

I have listened to Rush for 27 years and today was a little strange, He did not endorse Ted but he said again that Ted was the closest thing to Reagan in his lifetime. He also said why he is not going to attack anyone that has a chance to defeat a democrat which is the biggest enemy of the Republic.

The GOP is in trouble because they won't battle the enemy, it is as simple as that.

We could do well on FR to heed the advice of not damaging any of our candidates that have a chance to defeat the democrats, who are the real enemy.

104 posted on 02/16/2016 5:02:56 PM PST by itsahoot (1st impression. Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. VoteTrump)
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To: skeeter

Exactly, my uncle has always said that the ObamaCare bill had nothing to with healthcare. By law if you walk into a hospital with a serious medical problem, and you do not have insurance, the hospital must treat regardless of your ability to pay. The Dem’s used that argument to get the gullible of society to believe that people were not being treated for life threatening issues because they did not have insurance. Thereby creating the need for a government agency or program, where all that is needed is that the government get the heck out of peoples business and let the market drive cost down. Seems like Trump is using the same tactic.


105 posted on 02/16/2016 5:04:13 PM PST by PA-LU Student (https://www.tedcruz.org/l/ducking-donald/)
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To: MLL

FLIP FLOP, FLIP FLOP. Tomorrow he will change his mind again.

.and, anyone who calls him on it is a baddy bad hoorinle person liar


106 posted on 02/16/2016 5:13:13 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Good plan, I second it.


107 posted on 02/16/2016 5:15:27 PM PST by andy1954
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To: RoosterRedux

It was fun initially, but now it is tiring. Trump is a bull in an explosives warehouse. While I want to make the establishment squirm and lose, I don’t want to sacrifice my integrity and principles to make it happen.


108 posted on 02/16/2016 5:19:56 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Yup. I really thought that after he made the disgusting comment about 9-11 the other night, would have made a lot of his supporters to see the light. Some here did see the light but most did not.


109 posted on 02/16/2016 5:23:51 PM PST by MLL
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To: PA-LU Student

Your uncle is correct - the ACA is simply another wealth transfer scheme (most specifically the wealth of young people who typically do not feel the need to spend on health insurance) it has nothing to do with providing health care.


110 posted on 02/16/2016 5:25:41 PM PST by skeeter
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To: MLL

I have uneasily supported him up until that moment and his overall petulant behavior in that last debate.

I almost wish I had not seen it so that I would feel better about voting for him in the fall. As is, I am starting to doubt he is any better than Bernie or Hillary.


111 posted on 02/16/2016 5:30:34 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I warmed up to him as my second choice. But then he opened his mouth and that was it for me. And after Saturday, I became truly disgusted with the man.


112 posted on 02/16/2016 5:33:42 PM PST by MLL
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To: RasterMaster
Looks like that was 16 years ago. Times do change.
113 posted on 02/16/2016 5:34:10 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Whitebread

Let me guess. He’s going to throw his support behind the ever so honest Trump, right?


114 posted on 02/16/2016 5:43:30 PM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: PA-LU Student

“Cantor lost was the only reason”

You need to get away from the Cruz spin, google some objective accounts of what happened.

It is laughable to claim that Cruz single-handedly defeated the bill, or had anything to do to defeat the bill. He could not defeat the bill in the Senate.

You can start by googling info on effects of Cantor being defeated in election.


115 posted on 02/16/2016 6:14:14 PM PST by odawg
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To: conservativejoy

“It was that close to being passed... and I think I can say this with integrity. Without the vigorous opposition of Ted Cruz, this bill likely would have passed.” - Sen. Jeff Sessions

The bill did pass the Senate.

Rush Limbaugh can not be trusted on Cruz. How many times do you hear Rush recount Cruz’s vote for TPA or the Corker bill. Why not?


116 posted on 02/16/2016 6:16:18 PM PST by odawg
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To: Zenjitsuman

Okayyyyyy.......


117 posted on 02/16/2016 6:16:35 PM PST by MomMcGraff (The U.S. Constitution is the law of the land)
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To: odawg

And you sir are not reading what I or Senator Cruz have been saying, He said that it was the pressure of the american people on the congressmen sitting on the fence that did a majority of the work, he only took credit for being part of the orchestration of getting the word out to those people about what was going on. I never said that Cruz did it single handed, I said that Cruz with the other congressmen and senators lead the fight on these issues. Show me the data where he didn’t............ it could be a long wait since there isn’t any. Cruz, Sessions, Lee, Paul, and Congressman King lead the conservative effort to kill the amnesty bill. Let me ask you who wins wars.... The generals like Patton, Eisenhower, Alexander the great, Julius Ceasar, Rommel or others of that ilk. Maybe it is the footsoldiers, the Audie Murphey’s who did it.

I personally like to think that it was both, with out the leaders our movements as the electorate would prove for naught. However give us leaders in washington, or outside like Rush and Levin, and they direct the full force towards where it would hurt the most.

Cantor’s loss was a large factor in why the Amnesty bill died in the house, but it was the fact that people in other districts were calling their congressmen mad as hell about it. Then the Cantor loss had meaning because now there was that threat looming over every congressmen in a swing district. Without the national outcry the Cantor loss would have had no significant meaning for the rest of congress.


118 posted on 02/16/2016 6:29:27 PM PST by PA-LU Student (https://www.tedcruz.org/l/ducking-donald/)
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To: PA-LU Student

“And you sir are not reading what I or Senator Cruz have been saying,”

Rush Limbaugh mention Monday how the Congress no longer listens to voters over matters such as immigration.

No, I am definitely not listening to what Cruz is saying. Of course he is going to give himself all the credit.

I prefer to get information from objective sources. Cruz is not objective.


119 posted on 02/16/2016 6:38:41 PM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

As House Conservatives will attest, Cruz was meeting with them on a daily basis to form strategies to defeat the bill.


120 posted on 02/16/2016 7:29:47 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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