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Hollywood Partyers, Soldiering On (Trump in March 2003 at Beginning of War, Opposing War)
Washington Post ^ | 25 Mar 2003 | William Booth, Sharon Waxman

Posted on 02/16/2016 11:18:28 AM PST by xzins

Donald Trump, with Amazonian beauty Melania Knauss at his side, pronounces on the war and the stock market: "If they keep fighting it the way they did today, they're going to have a real problem."

Looking as pensive as a "Nightline" talking head, the Donald concludes, "The war's a mess," before sweeping off into the crowd.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2003; iraq; trump
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To: GeaugaRepublican

George W. Bush ran on NO NATION BUILDING.
Remember that? Non interventionist was W’s campaign promise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGDwvAbx_fg

Bush on nation building: 2000 presidential debates

http://www.debates.org/?page=october-11-2000-debate-transcript


41 posted on 02/16/2016 12:20:01 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican ("Donald Trump is the last hope for America." Phyllis Schlafly)
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To: ifinnegan

Yup. Absolutely.


42 posted on 02/16/2016 12:20:35 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican ("Donald Trump is the last hope for America." Phyllis Schlafly)
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To: ifinnegan

I’ll go further.

Shah of Iran
Mubarak of Egypt
Saddam
Kaddafi

People are slow learners.


43 posted on 02/16/2016 12:22:53 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican ("Donald Trump is the last hope for America." Phyllis Schlafly)
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To: ifinnegan
In some areas Paul and Buchanan were the same as leftists and, as I pointed out, Buchanan recognized this and did ally with The Nation on some issues.

You can also make a case that establishment Republicans are on the same page as Clinton Democrats on foreign policy. Hillary Clinton's agenda for Syria (i.e. ground troops to overthrow Assad followed by nation-building) is identical to Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush's agenda. So the counter to saying that Buchanan (or, more to the point, Trump) "sounds like a liberal" is to point out that his opponents sound like another type of liberal.

The bottom line is that there have always been both liberal and conservative interventionists, as well as both liberal and conservative anti-interventionists. Calling your opponents "liberals" because they don't share your views is a game either side of the debate can play.

44 posted on 02/16/2016 12:23:13 PM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ifinnegan

I hadn’t thought about that. It could have been.

Autocorrect makes me crazy.


45 posted on 02/16/2016 12:24:43 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Does anyone not remember the video with in the first few weeks of the start of the war with the stuff buried in the desert? And in the caravans?


46 posted on 02/16/2016 12:34:39 PM PST by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: ifinnegan

I agree with Hillary an Bernie Sanders that the sky is blue. That doesn’t make me a hard core leftist.


47 posted on 02/16/2016 12:43:29 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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To: posterchild
His wife is from the Amazon region? Who knew?

Which wife?

48 posted on 02/16/2016 12:46:23 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: xzins
That was 2000.
This is 2003.

A lot can happen in 3 years.

Wait. What?

49 posted on 02/16/2016 12:48:44 PM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: kinsman redeemer

It could be as simple as reading the reports of the libertarians that all the supposed WMDs were not provable.

That could change someone in 2000 to a different view in 2003.


50 posted on 02/16/2016 12:55:31 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
Trump predicted the future??? He is a witch! Wizard! SORCERY! Burn him at the stake!!!!!


51 posted on 02/16/2016 12:59:07 PM PST by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said.)
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To: Trumpinator

Does he float?


52 posted on 02/16/2016 1:01:02 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ifinnegan

Dear Finnegan,

No disrespect to you. I have strong feelings about taking US military action and so did our founders.

I do not believe the Democrats own the antiwar space. Democrats started most wars prior to Bush.


53 posted on 02/16/2016 1:05:19 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican ("Donald Trump is the last hope for America." Phyllis Schlafly)
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To: Jaded

I’m one of those odd ducks who think there were WMDs, but those were nothing compared to the capability to quickly retool to production of WMDs.

Sadly, the WMDs that turned up were old and were discredited by the BUSH ADMINISTRATION as being stockpiles of WMDs.

BUSH never defended himself.

However, there were many reports prior to the war that found no effective WMDs in Iraq.

I don’t think it’s unusual that lots of people believed those reports. It sounds like Trump was one of them.


54 posted on 02/16/2016 1:05:47 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ifinnegan

That is simply not true. Remember the contractors in Fallujah? Well I do, and so do a lot of other people on here and we were furious that the Bush Administration did nothing about that! That freakin town should have been leveled. We put Christians at risk and they had to flee to Syria. Muslims were burning down churches while Bush was rebuilding Mosques, you know “religion of peace” and all. There were plenty of conservatives angry about that. Angry about the Patriot Act, and the fact that Saudi Arabia is who should have been “shocked and awed,” not Iraq.


55 posted on 02/16/2016 1:16:18 PM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: ek_hornbeck

“You can also make a case that establishment Republicans are on the same page as Clinton Democrats on foreign policy.”

Absolutely, yes.

I posted a thread on just one such example about a month ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3382823/posts

As far as the Iraq war, I do not think that was interventionist. It was self defense in response to a direct attack.


56 posted on 02/16/2016 1:26:30 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Lil Flower

I agree with a lot of what you said.

I felt we should have occupied the entire Middle East after 911, WWII style.

The war was carried out much too PC.

That is very different than Bush Lied People Died and saying Hussein should have remained in power.


57 posted on 02/16/2016 1:30:23 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Why were you against removing Saddam Hussein?
________________

Misread your question. Two reasons:

1. US should not be in the removing head of government business. Firstly, our form of govt does not work well with certain poplulations. Democracy and Const. Republics work well with educated populaces, without education and mental horsepower, you end up with mob rule.

2. I believe in US sovereignty and believe in the rights of sovereign states and have little interest in chipping away at American sovereignty. If we disrespect the rights of sovereign countries, we leave the US open to future problems.

Would you like the UN forces landing on US soil if they do not like the way our elections turn out? We have a right to existence and self governance; so do other nations.

I view many of the multilateral defense and trade agreements that we have entered with great disdain. If you read some cases coming out of the International Law courts, you might agree with me.


58 posted on 02/16/2016 1:30:47 PM PST by GeaugaRepublican ("Donald Trump is the last hope for America." Phyllis Schlafly)
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To: GeaugaRepublican

Thanks.

But you did not answer why you were for keeping Hussein in power after 911.


59 posted on 02/16/2016 1:31:56 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: GeaugaRepublican

Thanks for answering.

“US should not be in the removing head of government business.”

I generally agree. But we removed Hitler. Germany did not attack us.


60 posted on 02/16/2016 1:34:03 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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