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Ted Cruz goes after Donald Trump for attacking George W. Bush
CBS NEWS ^ | February 15, 2016, | REBECCA SHABAD

Posted on 02/15/2016 1:57:52 PM PST by MarvinStinson

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To: hey Bean

Funny, bean.


241 posted on 02/15/2016 3:31:20 PM PST by dforest
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To: jessduntno

Yes, it’s his fault the war is lost. It’s Bush’s fault that we had to have thousands of men there indefinitely to keep the Iranians from taking over. If you were only going to get rid of Saddam, the best thing to do was to kill him and replace him with a Baathist that was more favorable to the US, then leave. Keep the Iraqi army intact. But even that was risky, unless you do regime change in Iran. Which wouldn’t have taken much, the people there don’t like the mullahs. Obama had a chance to get rid of the mullahs, but he is on their side, and the revolt was defeated. Now they are stronger than ever, and about to get nukes.


242 posted on 02/15/2016 3:34:56 PM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
From the article:

By 2003, inspections had not occurred in Iraq in five years, which concerned George W. Bush and his team greatly in the post-9/11 world.

In my lectures on Iraq still today, I quote lengthy articles from the New York Times to Newsweek that detailed Saddam’s frightening covert biological and nuclear programs. Check the Washington Post (Barton Gellman, “Iraq Works Toward A-Bomb,” September 30, 1998); London Times (“Defectors say Iraq tested nuclear bomb,” February 25, 2001, and “Iraq ‘will have nuclear bomb in months,’” September 16, 2002); New Yorker (Jeffrey Goldberg, “The Great Terror,” March 25, 2002); U.S. News & World Report (Richard J. Newman, “Stalking Saddam,” February 23, 1998); Newsweek (John Barry, “Unearthing the Truth,” March 2, 1998); or Time, the Los Angeles Times, the Wall Street Journal, or on and on. Some laid out not merely nuclear programs but supposed secret nuclear tests conducted by Saddam. Peruse transcripts from major TV news broadcasts: CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, CBC. Check the BBC and NPR. Oh, and don’t neglect the full-blown books published by top houses, like Khadhir Hamza’s Saddam’s Bombmaker.


243 posted on 02/15/2016 3:36:26 PM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: Defiant

“Yes, it’s his fault the war is lost. It’s Bush’s fault that we had to have thousands of men there indefinitely to keep the Iranians from taking over.”

Making the 4th such base. To quell this violence, it would have been worth it after the fact. Taking the other bases over wasn’t easy, either. But it’s what we have done successfully in the past. The hatred of Bush on this board is tiresome.


244 posted on 02/15/2016 3:39:47 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: jessduntno

Go Bush. We got the message slick.


245 posted on 02/15/2016 3:42:47 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: odawg

Because I consider W Bush to be a man of honor, even if I disagree with some of the decisions he made.

You apparently do not.


246 posted on 02/15/2016 3:56:50 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: Durbin

The one thing this thread makes perfectly clear is that free republic is inundated with DUmmie trolls. I’ve never seen so many arguments from the leftist playbook on this site. And some conservatives are too stupid to realize they are being manipulated and they join right in.


247 posted on 02/15/2016 4:03:18 PM PST by deltanine
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To: deltanine

“I’ve never seen so many arguments from the leftist playbook on this site.”

Pretty much. It’s embarrassing.


248 posted on 02/15/2016 4:04:34 PM PST by Durbin
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To: VanDeKoik

Did anyone here on FR EVER say the impeachment of Bush, over the Iraq would be a good thing, like Trump did?
I don’t think so.


249 posted on 02/15/2016 4:05:00 PM PST by kygolfman
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“You apparently do not.”

Well, if you were/are one of the victims of an illegal alien he allowed in, out of the goodness of his heart, you probably would not think so.

There is a site you an find on the internet that keeps stats on people murdered by illegals. There are thousands.


250 posted on 02/15/2016 4:07:24 PM PST by odawg
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To: dragnet2

“Go Bush. We got the message slick.”

as usual, you do not know wtff you are talking about. I never said anything about backing Bush. Just stating the truth. History is a bitch to guys like you, isn’t it?


251 posted on 02/15/2016 4:11:50 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: odawg
And that is a legitimate reason to criticize Bush.

If Trump had attacked Bush from the right, on an issue like that, I would have had zero problems with it. Bush did MANY things I disagree with strongly. Attacking psychopath sadistic Muslims and their evil allies and enablers after 9-11 is not one of them.

But, Trump attacked Bush with the left wing wacko talking point that W lied, which is BS.

Bush could have nuked Iraq, Iran and North Korea (the axis of evil) off the map, and won the war without any American lives lost and at minimal cost.

THAT is the only thing W did wrong in regards to war, he pussyfooted around with these savages and let do gooders turn a righteous war into bs nation building.

252 posted on 02/15/2016 4:15:40 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: VanDeKoik

Oh, but calling her a c**t is better?


253 posted on 02/15/2016 4:17:18 PM PST by chae (The Lannisters send their regards--Game of Thrones)
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To: jessduntno

I’ve seen enough history created by the corrupt politicians to last a life time. America can’t take any more of their history.

Learn it.


254 posted on 02/15/2016 4:20:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Google: Bush administration preparation for Iraq war before 9/11.

For example:

1/30/01 Saddam’s removal is top item of Bush’s inaugural national security meeting. Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill later recalls, “It was all about finding a way to do it. The president saying, ‘Go find me a way to do this.’” [Date the public knew: 1/10/04]


255 posted on 02/15/2016 4:31:08 PM PST by odawg
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To: dragnet2
I’ve seen enough history created by the corrupt politicians to last a life time. America can’t take any more of their history.

Learn it.

Why would I want to learn more history if it is corrupt? I've got enough sense to dig it out and a good enough memory to know what has trnspired in my lifetime. You really are confused. It's clear though, that you don't like America very much. Please don't let's continue this. I have enough libtards to deal with and don't need to add you...whatever the hell it is that you are.

256 posted on 02/15/2016 4:35:14 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: odawg
I have no issue with that.

I assume it's a top issue to get rid of North Korea's leader also as well as the Ayatollah in Iran.

Big whoop.

It would be a bigger issue if it WASN'T a top priority to remove rouge leaders of terrorist supporting nation states that endanger the safety of the entire world.

257 posted on 02/15/2016 4:37:25 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“If Trump had attacked Bush from the right, on an issue like that, I would have had zero problems with it.”

I have often thought that that meme about attacking someone “from the left” is a distinction without a difference. It is bogus. I have been criticizing politicians however I wish and do not allow anyone to tell me something is off limits because someone one the left uses it.

The WMD controversy is legitimate. Evidently, the “Bush lied, people died” upsets people.

Bush lied about not enforcing immigration and more people have been killed by illegal immigrants in the United States since he took office than died during 9/11 (I am referring to his 8 years). I know you won’t believe me, so do your own research.

Numbers USA is a good starting point.


258 posted on 02/15/2016 4:42:32 PM PST by odawg
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To: spacejunkie2001

“what a shameful little liar YOU are. just like your candidate.”

Yes, I support Cruz.


259 posted on 02/15/2016 4:47:48 PM PST by patq
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To: jessduntno
Keeping troops indefinitely in Europe and S. Korea is one thing; they are not subject to constant attacks and casualties. But Iraq was never going to be peaceful, unless Iran was defeated. And Bush never ever made any slight move towards doing that.

What was the guy's name, Michael something, who wrote weekly about what was going on in Iran, how it was ripe to fall with just a little push and about what the mullahs were doing? He ended every column for about 5 years with "Faster", on the hope that Bush was prepping for the move on Iran. He finally gave up. I was a big supporter of the same strategy. Leave Iran in place, and you have defeated the reason for going into Iraq, which was to end the possibility of terror attacks on the US homeland emanating from the middle east ever again. Saddam was dangerous, but so was Iran. So were the Saudis. We spent trillions, and now we have a muslim in the white house because of Bush's religion of peace crap, and we have terrorists waltzing in unchecked so that people in the US will see beheadings on our streets at some point in the not too distant future. Thanks, W.

The defense of Bush after all he did to us is what is tiresome.

260 posted on 02/15/2016 5:03:33 PM PST by Defiant (RINOs are leaders of a party without voters. Trump/Cruz are leaders of voters without a party.)
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