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Bush Lied About WMDs? Trump's Outrageous Accusation - ludicrous left-wing canard.
The American Spectator ^ | February 15, 2016 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 02/15/2016 1:35:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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Thus, by 2003, President George W. Bush had correctly calculated that Saddam's WMD arsenal, after at least five years of no inspections, was an intolerable, unacceptable risk in the wake of 9/11.

This was a fully legitimate fear, with Bush's suspicion of Saddam's stockpiles first informed not by his advisers but, instead, by the media that informed all of us in the 1990s, years before Bush became president.

In short, all of that very recent history was forgotten by an emotional, angry, childish political left after our troops didn't find the WMD stockpiles we all expected.

Of course, we did discover some WMDs in Iraq after 2003 (everyone forgets this), and chief inspector David Kay found both Iraqi infrastructure and intent to ramp up WMD production once Saddam later figured he was in the clear. We did not, however, find the WMD stockpiles we expected.

That said, the argument that George W. Bush deliberately lied about WMDs is not only extraordinarily unfair but stunningly misinformed and nonsensical.

Sure, Donald Trump can generally argue that going into Iraq was ill-advised, and that "we destabilized" the larger Middle East region. "George Bush made a mistake," said Trump in the South Carolina debate. "We should have never been in Iraq."

That's a legitimate point of contention. Fair enough - though Trump better not exclude Obama's prematurely pulling troops from Iraq from that equation. That, more than anything else, enabled the rise of ISIS.

But Trump charging that Bush lied on WMDs is outrageous. He should clarify it, apologize for it, or admit that he did not speak as precisely as he should have.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bush43; bushlied; cbsdebate; goprimary; iraq; southcarolina; terrorism; trump; wmd
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To: Sun; Doofer
Why, yes the intel was questionable. It was Saddam himself who was bragging about having WMDs.

"Just this week, a CIA leak confirmed that there are several hours of tape-recorded surveillance of Saddam bragging that he had these weapons and planned to use them against Israel and the U.S. We know that Saddam had WMDs at one time."

Did Saddam Hussein have weapons of mass destruction?

21 posted on 02/15/2016 1:56:37 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Helicondelta

Funny how so many of the 2013 thru 2016 sign-ups are siding with Code Pink, International ANSWER and the rest of that crowd...


22 posted on 02/15/2016 1:56:58 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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Good this issue is being revisited.

Bush’s declaration to action concerned the potential for eminent threat. End of story.

Regarding Trump on this matter, he’s an idiot. Nonetheless, the better of all idiots 2016...

Cruz and/or Trump 2016


23 posted on 02/15/2016 1:57:19 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think there were two reasons for Iraq:
1- secure wmd’s
2- strategic and tactical positioning of U.S. power....for a hundred great reasons.

That the weapons were moved to Lebanon and buried, put them in a secure place. But the other reason for going-in was far more important.

Bush and friends did a very good thing,
knowing the weapons were no longer in-country. It was simply necessary for world peace and stability. I give G.W. credit for foresight.

Too bad Baraq o’Bama screwed up and pulled us out. The region went boink.

Trump....I like him....he has my vote: but he’s either plain wrong about Iraq, or strategerizin’ for Sanders’ idiots....knowing the actual truth.

Cuz now the whole thing is moot, anyway.


24 posted on 02/15/2016 1:58:33 AM PST by dasboot (Angus Khan)
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To: Helicondelta

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33082-2004May17.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4997808/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/bomb-said-holddeadly-sarin-gas-explodes-iraq/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/05/17/sarin-mustard-gas-discovered-separately-in-iraq.html

Kinda hard for a sarin ied to be found if Iraq didn’t have any, don’t you think?


25 posted on 02/15/2016 1:59:28 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Yosemitest
Right. The trucks, allegedly under Russian escort, hauled the WMDs up to Syria's Bekka Valley, where they were stashed.

Which just might explain some of why Russia is involved keeping Assad in power, and close to the situation to monitor if ISIS has found or deployed them.

26 posted on 02/15/2016 2:04:16 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Helicondelta

“It just kills people”
http://www.britannica.com/technology/weapon-of-mass-destruction
“weapon with the capacity to inflict death and destruction on such a massive scale and so indiscriminately that its very presence in the hands of a hostile power can be considered a grievous threat. “

Gee, it says “death”, not just destruction.


27 posted on 02/15/2016 2:04:27 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Yosemitest

The NY Times of Oct 14, 2014

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=0

That’s all you need. They found a LOT of chemical weapons.


28 posted on 02/15/2016 2:05:35 AM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

love to see the left defend Bush to go after Trump


29 posted on 02/15/2016 2:05:43 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Helicondelta
It just kills people.

Ditto neutron bombs, weaponized anthrax, and VX, but I think they all count.

30 posted on 02/15/2016 2:07:16 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Helicondelta

Chemical weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction. The commonly accepted definition of WMD is nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons.


31 posted on 02/15/2016 2:08:13 AM PST by dschapin
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To: 4rcane

After they first, themselves, denied that sarin or mustard was found at all.
See links I posted in this thread.
We did find wmd, we should have crowed about it but didn’t.


32 posted on 02/15/2016 2:08:30 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: xzins
His refusal to defend his assertion from the beginning of his operation is a sobering thought.

Presenting the material which would have justified the assertion might have compromised HUMINT assets, technological capabilities, or both. There are sometimes valid reasons for not disclosing how you know what you know, and couching that information in more vague and intuitive terms rather than as absolute sourced information.

33 posted on 02/15/2016 2:11:19 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Darksheare

anything they found was all old degrading crap left over from the Iran /Iraq war era.. that’s not why we were told we needed to invade Iraq.. you are making my point

.. where were all the loading cars,, the factories that were building the weapons. the nuclear bomb parts, the underground facilities to make the stuff? NOT THERE.. it was all bullshit


34 posted on 02/15/2016 2:15:38 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Smokin' Joe

Duh. Correction: The Bekaa (Beqaa) Valley is in Lebanon, not Syria.


35 posted on 02/15/2016 2:16:16 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

Not so.
The Polish contingent found a green band artillery shell.
And the sarin ied was a binary mix in flight of a type Iraq was not known to possess prior to 1995.
And, again, the claim they were “old” doesn’t matter.
They existed.
Period.


36 posted on 02/15/2016 2:17:37 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Saddam was missing only one more ingredient to succeed in his quest for WMDs. That ingredient was obama.


37 posted on 02/15/2016 2:17:46 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Tx Angel
Nothing like Satellite Photos to blow the LIES AWAY with FACTS !
Be sure to check out the link to that FreeRepublic.Com thread.
38 posted on 02/15/2016 2:19:13 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Darksheare

oh please Bush never once came to the American people and said we found their WMDs we told you they had and the reason we started the war.. or did you see a press conference or Bush speech that I missed where he said it?


39 posted on 02/15/2016 2:20:00 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

One cannot both claim the wmd did not exist and they were old.
Either they existed or they didn’t.
And since our troops were but with a sarin ied, and several mustard ieds, I’m leaning towards, “yup, that’s real.”
Post 25.
Sarin and mustard found.


40 posted on 02/15/2016 2:22:26 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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